WSJ poll favors Trump by 47% to 43%

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    • #7974
      Mick1Mick1
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      A recent WSJ poll, results of which were published this morning, indicates that Trump has a 4% lead over Biden, if it’s just a race between the two of them. When five potential third party and independent candidates are added to the mix (e.g., RFK Jr., Cornel West, Joe Manchin, Jill Stein and Lars Mapstead), Trump’s lead expands to 6% at 37% to 31%. This is the first time this has occurred in a WSJ poll.

      Everyone is unhappy with Biden. Only 23% of voters say Biden’s policies have helped them, 53% say they have been harmed by Trump’s policies. By contrast, about half of voters say Trump helped them versus the 37% who say that Trump’s policies have hurt them.

      Trump is listed as better able to handle the economy, inflation, crime, border security and Israel/Hamas, all by a significant margin.

      Trump Takes 2024 Lead as Biden Approval Hits New Low, WSJ Poll Finds – WSJ

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    • #7975
      AvatarCornfed
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      All the preparations are being made to accomodate Biden’s withdrawal from the race.  The withdrawal would be best if it were for non-political reasons.  Could happen at the convention.  They have worked out details w/ Kamala.  She’ll be placated.

    • #7977
      AvatarHurlburt88
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      Cornfed, so then who steps in for both of the Dem candidate roles?  Or up in the air as of now?

    • #7979
      Mick1Mick1
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      Cornfed, so then who steps in for both of the Dem candidate roles? Or up in the air as of now?

      I can’t envision a circumstance in which Kamala Harris runs for any national office, much less the Presidency. She’s toxic. She’s Hillary Clinton x100 in terms of voter lack-of-appeal and voter irritation.

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    • #7980
      AvatarCornfed
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      What do you think of Sherrod Brown of Ohio?  I suppose he’s too moderate.  Not gonna be Newsome after that debate w/ DiSantis as well as a $68 billion deficit.  Maybe John Fetterman’s transformation will continue.  🤔

    • #7981
      LegendLegend
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      [quote quote=7980]What do you think of Sherrod Brown of Ohio? I suppose he’s too moderate. Not gonna be Newsome after that debate w/ DiSantis as well as a $68 billion deficit. Maybe John Fetterman’s transformation will continue. 🤔[/quote]

      I think at this point I would even vote for Fetterman if he ran.  His candidacy, although against a carpetbagging Dr. Oz, represented a major jump the shark moment in politics.  The guy literally is disabled from stringing a few sentences together and refuses to honor his office by donning slacks.

      I’d vote for him just to see what could happen next.

       

      (no, not really).

       

      As for Biden, he is not only past his sell by date, which we have been saying for years, he’s now thoroughly outed as a power mad grifter who has grown wealthy on the backs of the U.S. citizenry.  I truly hope he goes down in disgrace.

      Funny people like to point at Trump as the analog for Biden, but here’s the thing:  Trump was a grifter from the start, but not by selling out the Citizens of the U.S. en masse.  Trump did it the honest way:  With bad products and good lawyers.

      It’s now pretty clear that Biden would sell his grandmother if it meant his family “Brand” got a little more burnish.

       

       

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    • #7982
      Mick1Mick1
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      Here’s an article that’s focused on the likely economic outcome for the average family if Trump gets elected. Claims that Trump will improve things in the following areas:

      1. Tax Cuts
      2. Job Growth
      3. Trade Policies
      4. Global Impact (reshoring jobs to U. S. soil)
      5. Infrastructure
      6. Job Creation
      7. Healthcare
      8. Insurance Costs

      I don’t care for the man personally, any more than I would have positive feelings about New Yorkers, real estate investors or billionaires in general. I’d rather not have any of the three running the country, much less all three in one. And if Trump were walking down the street in my direction, I’d cross the street to avoid him.

      At the same time…I’m trying to understand why I wouldn’t prefer his policies, particularly in the above eight categories, to those of…frankly…any Democrat. These days, I don’t think there’s any such thing as a moderate Democrat. I think they’re largely unelectable people who want to reface society based upon their internal muse. And I don’t trust them.

      At any rate, we’ll find out in 11 months…

      What a 2024 Trump Win Would Mean For Your Paycheck

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    • #7986
      AvatarCornfed
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      You are right, Mick.  It is very difficult to even think of a moderate Democrat.  And what the Dems might perceive as moderate (Amy Klobucher?) isn’t really close.  Consider the fact that Hillary is among the most moderate.  I think someone might come out of nowhere at the convention, if the backlash to Wokeism develops some momentum.  Maybe Jared Polis.  🤔

      • #7990
        cardcrimsoncardcrimson
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        Missing two main issues. Border security. Lower spending. We desperately need both.

        Love his policies for the most part. Don’t like the guy. Vote for the policies.

    • #7987
      Mick1Mick1
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      I thought Tulsi Gabbard was a reasonable Democrat, relatively speaking. But she was shouted down by the Lefties.

      Tulsi Gabbard

      BTW, Biden has routed $3.07 billion of federal money to Gavin Newsom’s debacle train going from Nowhere, CA to WhoCares, CA.

      Biden admin sends billions to California’s over-budget, behind-schedule ‘train to nowhere’

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      • #7991
        cardcrimsoncardcrimson
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        Love Tulsi. Would vote in a heartbeat for a Haley Gabbard ticket.

        Thought Newsom pulled the plug on the train to nowhere. Did he start it back up?

    • #7988
      Avatarrogpodge
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      Back when the Senate majority was closer, Kristen Sinema could be considered moderate. Now it’s John Fetterman!

    • #7989
      Mick1Mick1
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      Supposedly Nikki Haley has a 17 point lead over Joe Biden in a straw Wall Street Journal poll:

      SHOCK POLL: Nikki Haley Absolutely Wrecks Biden By Whopping 17 POINTS — And Trump Tops Biden By 4

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    • #7992
      cardcrimsoncardcrimson
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      As mentioned above, I’d vote for her. Right now, the only person she might not be able to beat is Trump.

    • #7993
      Mick1Mick1
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      Love Tulsi. Would vote in a heartbeat for a Haley Gabbard ticket. Thought Newsom pulled the plug on the train to nowhere. Did he start it back up?

      It’s still on track, no pun intended. They had a board meeting with a status report six days ago. They’ve selected a consultant. Also, they sought $8 billion from the federal government, but were awarded just three billion.

      1. California High-Speed Rail – Wikipedia

      This is a problem in our deficit-ridden state. We received $26 billion less than was projected, so not only do we have a $68 billion deficit, we have a structural, annual $30 billion deficit.

      When Newsom became governor in 2019, the state budget was $223 billion. Now, four years later, it’s over $300 billion while the state has lost population. Newsom created a health insurance program for millions of illegal immigrants, but school budget cuts will save $17 billion.

      The state has a $24 billion reserve, but Newsom would have to declare an emergency to get at those funds…which would be inconvenient as he touts California’s economic miracle. Incidentally, California has technically entered a recession this year, since there was a 0.5% rise in the three month average unemployment rate compared to the 12 month low.

      California’s record deficits are a bad model for other states

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    • #7994
      Mick1Mick1
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      The political opinions in my family are all over the map. I have a libertarian younger son, a moderate/left older son, wife was a strong Trump supporter, now doesn’t care much about politics. Last night’s dinner table conversation was about Trump’s potential running mate. We all assumed he’d get the nomination, based upon a collectively unimpressive Republican debate. Younger son wants Ramaswamy. I like Haley. None of us like DeSantis.

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    • #7996
      Mick1Mick1
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      Biden won Michigan by 150k votes in 2020. He’s now headed for disaster, with a 49% disapproval/35% approval rating.

      Joe Biden’s Nightmare Polling in Michigan

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    • #7997
      Avatarrogpodge
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      Bleak.

    • #7998
      AvatarBeeg_Dawg
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      [quote quote=7997]

      https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js Bleak.[/quote]

      The scary part- it does not seem that far fetched.

    • #8000
      Mick1Mick1
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      Trump has a collective 5% lead in all swing states, based upon a Bloomberg poll of 4,935 registered voters. Smallest margin is 2% in Pennsylvania, margin of error is 1%.

      58% of voters in these swing states have an unfavorable view of Biden.

      53% of voters in these swing states have an unfavorable view of Trump.

      Iowa Republican caucuses on 1/15/24. New Hampshire primary on 1/23/24. Republican debates on 1/10 in Iowa and 1/21 in NH, both CNN. ABC has a Republican debate on 1/18 in NH.

      First DNC-sanctioned presidential primary is 2/3/24 in South Carolina, a reward from Joe B. for delivering the presidency to him.

       

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    • #8001
      Mick1Mick1
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      On the other hand, this Forbes article claims Biden would defeat Trump, particularly if Trump is convicted on one or more of the 91 criminal charges in the four trials. The poll shows Trump with a 2% national lead over Biden, but with 26% of voters saying they weren’t sure of the best candidate.

      The Reuters poll (4,411 adults nationwide, 2% margin of error) claims Biden has a 4 point lead collectively  in the same 7 states that the Bloomberg poll claims Trump has a significant lead.

      If RFK Jr. enters the race as a third party, Trump’s lead would widen.

      https://www.forbes.com/sites/saradorn/2023/12/12/biden-leads-trump-in-these-key-battleground-states-but-is-still-losing-popular-vote-new-poll-finds/?sh=32216cf05894

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