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It became a banana republic when we elected Trump. These indictments are pretty damning. If Biden or Obama did anything remotely similar, conservatives would be shouting from the rooftops. And I’d be agreeing with them. If any Democrat did these things they should be held accountable. Don’t let your partisanship blind you.
Trump’s goose is cooked. I suggest Republicans start figuring out another candidate to get behind.
Of course, I could be wrong. I thought conservatives would see what a raging moron Trump was back in 2016. I later thought they would finally get a clue on January 6th, 2021. And there was a brief period where even conservatives seemed to agree that Trump had gone too far. But the Kool-Aid drinking started again shortly afterwards. So who knows. You’d think the Trump cult members would eventually get a clue, but then again they are cult members, so it remains to be seen. I admittedly have overestimated the intelligence of many Republicans, who can’t seem to stop suckling the Trump teat.
My prediction is that Chris Christie gains momentum. It’s a long shot bet. But as far as I can see, he’s the only adult in the room of terrible Republican candidates. The other obvious choice — DeSantis — needs a personality transplant, as Trump accurately described. His poll numbers were relatively high to begin with, when he was just a faceless alternative to Trump. But the more people see of him, the worse his poll numbers are. But maybe he’ll finally grow a pair and start criticizing Trump now that it’s safer to do so.
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Let’s not go all 1619 here and try to misrepresent history. This bullshit began before Trump. Let’s not forget Obama & Biden were briefed pre election 2016 about the Clinton campaign’s intent to lie about Russian collusion. August of 2016 if memory serves? They sat by silently as political actors in the FBI and the Congress crippled our elected government for two years. That’s not banana republic?
Biden bragged about his methodology for extorting money from Ukraine. Bribery doesn’t meet your definition? Banana Republic perhaps?
They used the FBI and social media to bury the laptop story during the 2020 election cycle. The FBI had possession of the laptop a year before the election. No indictments yet…four years later? Hmmm
I’d suggest you invest twelve or so minutes watching Tucker Carlson episode 2. “Cling to your Taboos”. Trump has nothing to do with the cultural transformation that some seek to impose. And for what it’s worth, you need a new elevator speech. Trump wasn’t the beginning of our nations history or the current descent.
https://twitter.com/tuckercarlson/status/1666928190445477890?s=42
And as to the indictment, just between us, do you take what the DoJ/FBI seriously, still? After lying to the FISA Court? After launching investigations without predication? After classifying parents and Catholics as domestic terrorists? After examining the roster of low lifes populating Jack Smith’s team. Who’s on the kool-aide?
One PS, who came to mind when you saw Biden deliver his, “I’m honest” line? A hint for you, think of politicians with the initials RN. A guy who said, “I did not have sex with that woman, Miss Lewinsky”? Anyway, thanks for your post. I always get a good laugh. And just in the last two days the field has begun to rationalize. No Hutchison and no Pence.
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Biden has done similar. Classified documents behind the Corvette, remember. And while you’re at it, how about Hillary and actually destroying government property and having classified info on an unprotected server in her home.
And help me understand how we became a banana republic after a fair election. Perhaps you’re referring to the riots in the streets after Hillary lost.
I’m no fan of Trump and would love a different Republican to get the nomination. But this indictment is a steaming pile, and you know it.
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Anyone remember this? It’s a 20 second video of Trump in 2016. He says he’s going to enforce all lars [sic] concerning the protection of classified documents.
In 2018 he then signed into law a bill that increased punishments for those who mishandle classified documents.
In the meantime, he lead countless “lock her up” chants. And we had to hear about Hillary’s emails every f*cking day on conservative media for years.
It’s not a double standard. This is the Trump standard. He made this a big deal. You all parroted it for years. And now you don’t like that it’s being enforced. At least have some integrity.
If Hillary or Biden did something this egregious and tried to cover it up, then throw the book at them too. But they’ve been investigated to death by Republicans and so far it’s all a bunch of malarkey.
Here’s the latest one: House Republican Report Finds No Evidence of Wrongdoing by President Biden
After months of investigation and many public accusations of corruption against Mr. Biden and his family, the first report of the premier House G.O.P. inquiry showed no proof of such misconduct.
So many accusations, investigations, and innuendo. But it always turns out to just be a lot of projection. Meanwhile Kushner gets $2 BILLION dollars from the Saudi’s after the Saudi’s bragged they had him in their pockets, but not a f*ckng peep about it. Nope. Just more “Hunter Bidens laptop” BS and Hillary’s emails.
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RJ, seriously. You need to stop listening to that Russian stooge, Tucker. Didn’t a bunch of operatives have the laptop? You don’t think we would have seen something damning by now besides a bunch of nude picks of Hunter’s cock?
Ah, yes, the FBI — running cover for Democrats. The latest mantra from conservatives, despite the fact that every single person that has ever run the FBI — going back 100+ years — was appointed by Republicans; despite the fact that the guy running it now was literally appointed by Trump himself; despite the fact that law enforcement folks tend to be conservatives. It really takes some serious mental gymnastics to conclude the FBI is biased towards Democrats and covering for them.
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Take your pick, the IG report highlighting DoJ/FBI misconduct or Durham’s final report. Give them a read and let me know if you want to stick with the narrative about the integrity of “republican” leadership as an excuse for this BS? And recall some of this conduct occurred under Trump appointee AG Barr. I’ve been redundant with countless assertions that DC is badly broken because of failures from both sides of the aisle.
As to Carlson’s observations, invest the 12 minutes then comment about his thoughts here specifically. Uninformed generalizations about his work/perspective suggest you’re comfortable in your state of bliss.
And the laptop contents specifically highlight the Biden family “business” relationships, Hunter’s financial obligations to his old man and uncle and insight into the web of LLC’s used in their “business”. That he liked to conduct that “business” in a state of undress and in the company of hookers, to each his own. Defend it to your hearts content while you reflect on the old saying we get the government we deserve. I’ve got us both to thank…I think. I’m simply less willing to accept it going forward.
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One update on my opinion. I thought Trump would be held accountable. But he got lucky and drew Aileen Cannon as the judge. She’s the MAGA sycophant appointed by him. She has already proven she will do anything to help him, so who knows now. Maybe she can slow play the trial until after the election. Maybe her appointment can somehow be appealed by the prosecution since she’s already proven to be a biased clown. But it does throw a wrench in things.
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I watched the Tucker video. I can’t stomach that guy and his fake concern-voice, but I humored you. And what’s your point?
His complaint is about an “amorphous moral terror”. Meanwhile his own party is waging a massive culture “war on woke”. The irony of the video: conservatives have been running around passing laws against drag queens, trans, don’t say gay, casting liberals as groomers, etc. Meanwhile he complains about politicians accusing people of things they couldn’t define. And yet none of them can define what “woke” means.
The only thing I got out of that video was that Instagram needs better moderation and that Tucker is a massive hypocrite, unless he’s referring to conservatives, as well. Unlikely.
my conclusion: this has nothing to do with whether Trump is guilty or whether he should have been indicted. It’s another example of the bizarre tangents you go on, changing the subject, every time I have ever engaged with you.
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“Trump is guilty or whether he should have been indicted. It’s another example of the bizarre tangents you go on, changing the subject, every time I have ever engaged with you.”
You suggested initially that we became a banana republic when Trump was elected. I think my reply addresses your assertion directly. And you’re old enough to know your narrative is false on its face.
Has the popular usage of “gay” changed during your life time? You remember homosexual? Which term is more descriptive of the underlying behavior? Why was “gay” appropriated?
How about the name change from gay related immune deficiency to acquired immune deficiency to AIDS?
Has the rainbow been appropriated for use as a descriptor for sexual preference?
When did you notice that pedophiles preferred minor attracted adults.
When did one’s ideological opposition become nazis? Racists? White supremicists?
Carlson’s point, and you know it, and plead ignorance so you didn’t have to address the obvious shortcomings of your assertion, is that language has been appropriated to shift power in our culture. This perversion of language is intentional and has been underway over the last 30 years at least. Trump’s election had little to do with these cultural changes that have brought us to the our current state. This change process has been deliberate and profound and has been used to suppress speech. That’s been the path to banana republic status and you know it, you’ve lived it. (And for the sake of accuracy, Carlson is distributing his content on Twitter not Instagram.)
Lastly, as to the relative severity of the offenses by Biden & Trump, that’s a matter of personal opinion.
”If Hillary or Biden did something this egregious and tried to cover it up, then throw the book at them too. But they’ve been investigated to death by Republicans and so far it’s all a bunch of malarkey.”
You’re entitled to your opinion. But it is amusing as could be to see you establish your own correctness by edict. Are you really that insecure? My OPINION is that a public official who knowingly and deliberately perverts public policy for personal monetary gain is about as bad as it gets. And in the current case, Biden fed off of Ukrainian corruption when official US policy was to get Ukraine to clean up its act. Treason likely is worse, but Trump isn’t accused of that, is he? But hey, that’s just my OPINION. I state it for the record not expecting to change your mind.
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Of course the culture around being gay has changed. When I was a kid it was stigmatized terribly. Liberals fought to change those attitudes. I thought we had gotten past that. But we now have the “war on woke”. And it sounds like you’re a true believe in this bs narrative that liberals are groomers.
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I appreciate your effort, RJNWMill. Beyond Thunderdome thinks it is all about discrediting personalities that he tries to assign to you. Liberals like her tend to be far more interested in personal attacks than reason. Nice try, though.
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Cornfed, I’ve been reading RJ’s replies going back many years to the original CEB. They always branch out into some off-topic crap. I don’t know if his mind works in mysterious ways or if he’s always just trying to change the subject. But it’s impossible to have a good faith argument with him about any topic.
I don’t have that problem with any other commenter here, whether I agree with them or not. Pardon me for pointing that out. Perhaps you can tell me what Tucker Carlson’s video had to do with whether or not Trump obstructed justice or should be held accountable.
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NO MALARKEY, this is the opening sentence in your first post!
”It became a banana republic when we elected Trump.”
If you can’t see the relevance of Carlson’s comments to your statement, I can’t help you.
But I am flattered that you’ve devoted so much time to my shortcomings. If it’s the worst people can say after seventy years, I may try to feed my dinner guests on two fish and five loaves.
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