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    • #10694
      cardcrimsoncardcrimson
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      That’s the mantra of the left pushing Prop 50. It’s a done deal, sadly. Who the voters are really sticking it to are their fellow Californians who live in a different areas and have different needs as citizens. But who cares about them? Whatever happened to no taxation without representation? Gerrymandering is hurting rural CA citizens, and there’s nothing they can do about it. They have no representation. Shameful.

      On a side note, I’ve not be posting here for months. For some reason I’ve not added it to my bookmarks and lost track. Anyway, a quick update, looks like we’re headed out of CA towards the much more open and accepting state of Alabama. After a mere 13 months at Bama, our daughter is killing it. Currently she’s the youngest Speaker of the Student Government Association Senate, and is also the VP of the Alabama Panhellenic Society (the largest sorority system in the world). She interned in DC last summer for a Dem congressman from NJ, and made a slew of connections. Nothing here for her, she’s made her own place, and we’re happy to follow. Having the in-laws in T-town, especially with my father in law suffering from early onset, it’s great to be there.

      Gas, $2.56 a gallon, too.

    • #10695
      AvatarCornfed
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      Welcome back.  This, as you may already know, is a much less censorious environment than the CardBoard.  It is actually less adversarial as well.  Although that may be because it is much smaller.  I look forward to your input.

    • #10696
      MickMick
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      That’s the mantra of the left pushing Prop 50. It’s a done deal, sadly. Who the voters are really sticking it to are their fellow Californians who live in a different areas and have different needs as citizens. But who cares about them? Whatever happened to no taxation without representation? Gerrymandering is hurting rural CA citizens, and there’s nothing they can do about it. They have no representation. Shameful. On a side note, I’ve not be posting here for months. For some reason I’ve not added it to my bookmarks and lost track. Anyway, a quick update, looks like we’re headed out of CA towards the much more open and accepting state of Alabama. After a mere 13 months at Bama, our daughter is killing it. Currently she’s the youngest Speaker of the Student Government Association Senate, and is also the VP of the Alabama Panhellenic Society (the largest sorority system in the world). She interned in DC last summer for a Dem congressman from NJ, and made a slew of connections. Nothing here for her, she’s made her own place, and we’re happy to follow. Having the in-laws in T-town, especially with my father in law suffering from early onset, it’s great to be there. Gas, $2.56 a gallon, too.

      Welcome back, CardCrimson. And congratulations to your daughter that sounds really cool…

    • #10698
      AvatarBeeg_Dawg
      Participant

      Just my impression, one would believe Trump was running for every elected position yesterday.  It was all about “fighting Trump.”  The one time I recall a back and forth about issues was about food cost, referencing $8/dozen eggs.  All good until it was noted egg prices were close to $2/dozen.  Oops.

    • #10699
      AvatarBeeg_Dawg
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      Help me out. From California to New Jersey, every democratic victory is being hailed as repudiation of Trump and his policies.

      Which elections did dems unexpectedly win? I’m not seeing a big blue wave.

    • #10700
      cardcrimsoncardcrimson
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      Agreed, nothing was a surprise yesterday. Disappointing, but not a surprise. Gavin’s gloating today was enough to gag a maggot. As for NJ, my daughter interned for Josh Gottheimer, who lost to Mikie in the gubernatorial primary; she was well funded, he more middle of the road, and heaven forbid, as his Jewish, took money from AIPAC. He never had a chance, nor did Jack.

      It’s interesting that the Mikie’s baggage from a cheating scandal and Jay Jones, the new top legal official in VA who wanted to see his rival and his rival’s wife and children killed so he could piss on their graves, both get elected.

    • #10702
      MickMick
      Participant

      Agreed, nothing was a surprise yesterday. Disappointing, but not a surprise. Gavin’s gloating today was enough to gag a maggot. As for NJ, my daughter interned for Josh Gottheimer, who lost to Mikie in the gubernatorial primary; she was well funded, he more middle of the road, and heaven forbid, as his Jewish, took money from AIPAC. He never had a chance, nor did Jack. It’s interesting that the Mikie’s baggage from a cheating scandal and Jay Jones, the new top legal official in VA who wanted to see his rival and his rival’s wife and children killed so he could piss on their graves, both get elected.

      Every so often, we need a reminder that the common voter is just as self-interested a scuzzbucket as the people they elect. So they elected a man who wishes to see his rival’s family killed so he could desecrate their graves…to the top law enforcement position in the great state of Virginia.

      Very little is jaw-dropping in politics. Sad to say, this isn’t jaw dropping either. Glad I don’t live there anymore.

    • #10705
      AvatarBeyondThunderdome
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      This was explained ad nauseam. Most Californians saw this as a last resort. It was a response to Texas and other red state gerrymandering. Newsom explained this before Texas finalized their plans and before they bent over backwards for Trump, who said he was “entitled” to five more seats in Texas.

      Prop 50 would not have been pursued if Texas simply acted in good faith, which literally required doing nothing. But they went ahead with their new redistricting maps, so California responded.

      But instead of blaming Texas for initiating this latest race to the bottom, you blame California for responding? It’s hard to take the faux outrage seriously when there’s not even a simple mention of Texas or any of the numerous red states that have been redrawing maps for years now, often unlawfully.

      NO MALARKEY

    • #10714
      MickMick
      Participant

      But instead of blaming Texas for initiating this latest race to the bottom, you blame California for responding? It’s hard to take the faux outrage seriously when there’s not even a simple mention of Texas or any of the numerous red states that have been redrawing maps for years now, often unlawfully.

      Both parties have been gerrymandering for years, dating back to the early 19th century when Governor Gerry of Massachusetts created a district that looked like a salamander, hence “gerrymandering.” Before that, it began in the UK when the term of art was “rotten boroughs” or creating districts with so few voters that they could literally be bought.

      Texas is responding to a court order forcing them to redistrict to eliminate race as a consideration. I noticed you didn’t mention that.

      You also didn’t mention that Illinois Democrats did the same thing in 2020. It was so blatant that even uber-Lefty Stephen Colbert challenged Gov Pritzker on it AND it was singled out with an “F” grade by Lefty academia Princeton University Gerrymandering project. Illinois lost two seats in the 2020 census, and the Democratic legislature gerrymandered it so that the Democrats gained a seat and the Republicans lost three seats.

      And, of course, you didn’t mention that. Why would you? You’re a hyperpartisan who will only criticize Republicans.

      Redistricting Report Card | Gerrymandering Project

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    • #10715
      MickMick
      Participant

      BTW, California is already gerrymandered in favor of Democrats. California registered Democrats as a percentage of overall registered voters: 44.8%. Current percentage of CA-Democrats in House of Representatives (45/54) 83.3%. 

      In other words, Democrats already have nearly twice their registered representation in Congress. But that’s not enough for Gerrymanderer-in-chief, Gavin Newsom. By redrawing the maps, Republicans will lose five seats, giving Democrats (50/54)  92.6% of the congressional representation in a state that has 25.41% registered Republicans.

      Pretty impressive. It’s rare to see a politician that slimy, that oleaginous, whose rank hypocrisy is stratospheric compared to the average hypocritical politician. But he’s doubling down and literally taking his act on the road to encourage other Democratic politicians to gerrymander.

      Redistricting Report Card | Gerrymandering Project

      • This reply was modified 5 months, 1 week ago by MickMick.
    • #10719
      MickMick
      Participant

      Let’s throw in the 2020 Illinois hyperpartisan redistricting. Illinois lost two seats in the census. Illinois has a long history of both parties abusing the process when they control the state legislature. But the congressional map drawn by Democrats after the 2020 Census is a modern masterpiece of the craft. It successfully transformed the state’s congressional delegation from 13 Democrats and 5 Republicans to 14 Democrats and just 3 Republicans.

      Very impressive. As part of the redistricting, they specifically organized it to include two very large Hispanic populations, so the district is referred to as “the earmuffs” for its resemblance:

      map of Illinois 4th congressional district the earmuffs

      And that was the issue with Texas. It’s why the courts (not Trump) forced it to undo its original gerrymandered map, because it was taking race into account, and the USSC says that is not acceptable.

    • #10720
      MickMick
      Participant

      Here’s the results of the Princeton gerrymandering project by state, color-coded:

      Home | Gerrymandering Project

      Here are the 50 states. First three columns lists percentage of registered voters by party. For those states that do not register by party, I did percentage of voters in last election (except Michigan). Next three columns are percentage of congressional representation by party. It is sorted by seventh column (disparity between registered Democratic voters and the percentage of congressional participants, so if Oklahoma has 38% registered Democrats and 0% Democrats in Congress, it is represented as +38%, favoring Republicans.

      The Princeton Gerrymandering project is listed in the last column; Good, Fair (some bias), OK (average), Bad (poor). Last two states, not enough data:

      State Reg Dem% Reg Repub% Reg Other% Cong Dem% Cong Repub%$ Cong Other% Diff PGP
      WV 34% 44% 22% 0% 100% 0% 34% Good
      KY 46% 49% 5% 13% 88% 0% 34% Good
      NE 28% 45% 27% 0% 100% 0% 28% Good
      SD 28% 50% 22% 0% 100% 0% 28% Good
      MT 26% 45% 29% 0% 100% 0% 26% Good
      ID 24% 93% -17% 0% 100% 0% 24% Good
      WY 20% 64% 16% 0% 100% 0% 20% Good
      MO 34% 47% 19% 20% 80% 0% 14% Good
      AL 36% 55% 9% 22% 78% 0% 14% Good
      IN 25% 31% 44% 18% 82% 0% 7% Good
      VA 52% 30% 18% 54% 46% 0% -2% Good
      AZ 29% 35% 35% 45% 55% 0% -16% Good
      NY 53% 25% 22% 75% 25% 0% -22% Good
      MN 34% 38% 28% 60% 40% 0% -26% Good
      CO 30% 27% 43% 60% 40% 0% -30% Good
      WA 52% 28% 20% 83% 17% 0% -31% Good
      MD 53% 23% 24% 90% 10% 0% -37% Good
      NJ 38% 21% 41% 79% 21% 0% -41% Good
      DE 48% 28% 24% 100% 0% 0% -52% Good
      MI 0% 0% 0% 53% 47% 0% -53% Good
      RI 43% 12% 45% 100% 0% 0% -57% Good
      MA 35% 10% 55% 100% 0% 0% -65% Good
      CT 30% 16% 54% 100% 0% 0% -70% Good
      IA 33% 35% 32% 0% 100% 0% 33% Fair
      PA 45% 39% 16% 42% 58% 0% 3% Fair
      ME 36% 29% 35% 50% 25% 25% -14% Fair
      CA 48% 24% 28% 83% 17% 0% -35% Fair
      NH 25% 23% 52% 100% 0% 0% -75% Fair
      OK 38% 52% 10% 0% 100% 0% 38% OK
      AR 15% 25% 60% 0% 100% 0% 15% OK
      AL 12% 24% 63% 0% 100% 0% 12% OK
      MS 24% 29% 47% 17% 83% 0% 7% OK
      SC 41% 49% 10% 11% 89% 0% 30% Bad
      ND 29% 43% 28% 0% 100% 0% 29% Bad
      LA 41% 47% 11% 25% 75% 0% 16% Bad
      TX 47% 38% 15% 33% 68% 0% 15% Bad
      UT 13% 60% 27% 0% 100% 0% 13% Bad
      FL 38% 41% 21% 27% 73% 0% 12% Bad
      NC 36% 28% 37% 25% 75% 0% 11% Bad
      KS 26% 47% 26% 17% 83% 0% 10% Bad
      TN 18% 34% 48% 9% 91% 0% 9% Bad
      OH 31% 31% 38% 29% 71% 0% 2% Bad
      WI 31% 37% 32% 30% 70% 0% 1% Bad
      GA 43% 27% 30% 44% 56% 0% -1% Bad
      IL 38% 28% 34% 84% 16% 0% -46% Bad
      NV 37% 36% 27% 83% 17% 0% -46% Bad
      OR 33% 26% 41% 88% 13% 0% -54% Bad
      NM 45% 31% 24% 100% 0% 0% -55% Bad
      VT 53% 20% 27% 67% 0% 33% -14% ???
      HI 38% 14% 48% 100% 0% 0% -62% ???
      35.0% 35.3% 29.6%
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