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November 3, 2025 at 8:11 pm #10694
cardcrimsonParticipantThat’s the mantra of the left pushing Prop 50. It’s a done deal, sadly. Who the voters are really sticking it to are their fellow Californians who live in a different areas and have different needs as citizens. But who cares about them? Whatever happened to no taxation without representation? Gerrymandering is hurting rural CA citizens, and there’s nothing they can do about it. They have no representation. Shameful.
On a side note, I’ve not be posting here for months. For some reason I’ve not added it to my bookmarks and lost track. Anyway, a quick update, looks like we’re headed out of CA towards the much more open and accepting state of Alabama. After a mere 13 months at Bama, our daughter is killing it. Currently she’s the youngest Speaker of the Student Government Association Senate, and is also the VP of the Alabama Panhellenic Society (the largest sorority system in the world). She interned in DC last summer for a Dem congressman from NJ, and made a slew of connections. Nothing here for her, she’s made her own place, and we’re happy to follow. Having the in-laws in T-town, especially with my father in law suffering from early onset, it’s great to be there.
Gas, $2.56 a gallon, too.
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November 4, 2025 at 3:38 pm #10695
Cornfed
ParticipantWelcome back. This, as you may already know, is a much less censorious environment than the CardBoard. It is actually less adversarial as well. Although that may be because it is much smaller. I look forward to your input.
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November 5, 2025 at 8:42 am #10696
MickParticipantThat’s the mantra of the left pushing Prop 50. It’s a done deal, sadly. Who the voters are really sticking it to are their fellow Californians who live in a different areas and have different needs as citizens. But who cares about them? Whatever happened to no taxation without representation? Gerrymandering is hurting rural CA citizens, and there’s nothing they can do about it. They have no representation. Shameful. On a side note, I’ve not be posting here for months. For some reason I’ve not added it to my bookmarks and lost track. Anyway, a quick update, looks like we’re headed out of CA towards the much more open and accepting state of Alabama. After a mere 13 months at Bama, our daughter is killing it. Currently she’s the youngest Speaker of the Student Government Association Senate, and is also the VP of the Alabama Panhellenic Society (the largest sorority system in the world). She interned in DC last summer for a Dem congressman from NJ, and made a slew of connections. Nothing here for her, she’s made her own place, and we’re happy to follow. Having the in-laws in T-town, especially with my father in law suffering from early onset, it’s great to be there. Gas, $2.56 a gallon, too.
Welcome back, CardCrimson. And congratulations to your daughter that sounds really cool…
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November 5, 2025 at 11:05 am #10698
Beeg_Dawg
ParticipantJust my impression, one would believe Trump was running for every elected position yesterday. It was all about “fighting Trump.” The one time I recall a back and forth about issues was about food cost, referencing $8/dozen eggs. All good until it was noted egg prices were close to $2/dozen. Oops.
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November 5, 2025 at 6:28 pm #10699
Beeg_Dawg
ParticipantHelp me out. From California to New Jersey, every democratic victory is being hailed as repudiation of Trump and his policies.
Which elections did dems unexpectedly win? I’m not seeing a big blue wave.
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November 5, 2025 at 9:25 pm #10700
cardcrimsonParticipantAgreed, nothing was a surprise yesterday. Disappointing, but not a surprise. Gavin’s gloating today was enough to gag a maggot. As for NJ, my daughter interned for Josh Gottheimer, who lost to Mikie in the gubernatorial primary; she was well funded, he more middle of the road, and heaven forbid, as his Jewish, took money from AIPAC. He never had a chance, nor did Jack.
It’s interesting that the Mikie’s baggage from a cheating scandal and Jay Jones, the new top legal official in VA who wanted to see his rival and his rival’s wife and children killed so he could piss on their graves, both get elected.
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November 6, 2025 at 9:18 am #10702
MickParticipantAgreed, nothing was a surprise yesterday. Disappointing, but not a surprise. Gavin’s gloating today was enough to gag a maggot. As for NJ, my daughter interned for Josh Gottheimer, who lost to Mikie in the gubernatorial primary; she was well funded, he more middle of the road, and heaven forbid, as his Jewish, took money from AIPAC. He never had a chance, nor did Jack. It’s interesting that the Mikie’s baggage from a cheating scandal and Jay Jones, the new top legal official in VA who wanted to see his rival and his rival’s wife and children killed so he could piss on their graves, both get elected.
Every so often, we need a reminder that the common voter is just as self-interested a scuzzbucket as the people they elect. So they elected a man who wishes to see his rival’s family killed so he could desecrate their graves…to the top law enforcement position in the great state of Virginia.
Very little is jaw-dropping in politics. Sad to say, this isn’t jaw dropping either. Glad I don’t live there anymore.
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November 8, 2025 at 4:47 am #10705
BeyondThunderdome
ParticipantThis was explained ad nauseam. Most Californians saw this as a last resort. It was a response to Texas and other red state gerrymandering. Newsom explained this before Texas finalized their plans and before they bent over backwards for Trump, who said he was “entitled” to five more seats in Texas.
Prop 50 would not have been pursued if Texas simply acted in good faith, which literally required doing nothing. But they went ahead with their new redistricting maps, so California responded.
But instead of blaming Texas for initiating this latest race to the bottom, you blame California for responding? It’s hard to take the faux outrage seriously when there’s not even a simple mention of Texas or any of the numerous red states that have been redrawing maps for years now, often unlawfully.
NO MALARKEY
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November 8, 2025 at 11:42 am #10714
MickParticipantBut instead of blaming Texas for initiating this latest race to the bottom, you blame California for responding? It’s hard to take the faux outrage seriously when there’s not even a simple mention of Texas or any of the numerous red states that have been redrawing maps for years now, often unlawfully.
Both parties have been gerrymandering for years, dating back to the early 19th century when Governor Gerry of Massachusetts created a district that looked like a salamander, hence “gerrymandering.” Before that, it began in the UK when the term of art was “rotten boroughs” or creating districts with so few voters that they could literally be bought.
Texas is responding to a court order forcing them to redistrict to eliminate race as a consideration. I noticed you didn’t mention that.
You also didn’t mention that Illinois Democrats did the same thing in 2020. It was so blatant that even uber-Lefty Stephen Colbert challenged Gov Pritzker on it AND it was singled out with an “F” grade by Lefty academia Princeton University Gerrymandering project. Illinois lost two seats in the 2020 census, and the Democratic legislature gerrymandered it so that the Democrats gained a seat and the Republicans lost three seats.
And, of course, you didn’t mention that. Why would you? You’re a hyperpartisan who will only criticize Republicans.
Redistricting Report Card | Gerrymandering Project
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November 8, 2025 at 11:43 am #10715
MickParticipantBTW, California is already gerrymandered in favor of Democrats. California registered Democrats as a percentage of overall registered voters: 44.8%. Current percentage of CA-Democrats in House of Representatives (45/54) 83.3%.
In other words, Democrats already have nearly twice their registered representation in Congress. But that’s not enough for Gerrymanderer-in-chief, Gavin Newsom. By redrawing the maps, Republicans will lose five seats, giving Democrats (50/54) 92.6% of the congressional representation in a state that has 25.41% registered Republicans.
Pretty impressive. It’s rare to see a politician that slimy, that oleaginous, whose rank hypocrisy is stratospheric compared to the average hypocritical politician. But he’s doubling down and literally taking his act on the road to encourage other Democratic politicians to gerrymander.
Redistricting Report Card | Gerrymandering Project
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November 8, 2025 at 12:26 pm #10719
MickParticipantLet’s throw in the 2020 Illinois hyperpartisan redistricting. Illinois lost two seats in the census. Illinois has a long history of both parties abusing the process when they control the state legislature. But the congressional map drawn by Democrats after the 2020 Census is a modern masterpiece of the craft. It successfully transformed the state’s congressional delegation from 13 Democrats and 5 Republicans to 14 Democrats and just 3 Republicans.
Very impressive. As part of the redistricting, they specifically organized it to include two very large Hispanic populations, so the district is referred to as “the earmuffs” for its resemblance:

And that was the issue with Texas. It’s why the courts (not Trump) forced it to undo its original gerrymandered map, because it was taking race into account, and the USSC says that is not acceptable.
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November 8, 2025 at 12:42 pm #10720
MickParticipantHere’s the results of the Princeton gerrymandering project by state, color-coded:
Here are the 50 states. First three columns lists percentage of registered voters by party. For those states that do not register by party, I did percentage of voters in last election (except Michigan). Next three columns are percentage of congressional representation by party. It is sorted by seventh column (disparity between registered Democratic voters and the percentage of congressional participants, so if Oklahoma has 38% registered Democrats and 0% Democrats in Congress, it is represented as +38%, favoring Republicans.
The Princeton Gerrymandering project is listed in the last column; Good, Fair (some bias), OK (average), Bad (poor). Last two states, not enough data:
State Reg Dem% Reg Repub% Reg Other% Cong Dem% Cong Repub%$ Cong Other% Diff PGP WV 34% 44% 22% 0% 100% 0% 34% Good KY 46% 49% 5% 13% 88% 0% 34% Good NE 28% 45% 27% 0% 100% 0% 28% Good SD 28% 50% 22% 0% 100% 0% 28% Good MT 26% 45% 29% 0% 100% 0% 26% Good ID 24% 93% -17% 0% 100% 0% 24% Good WY 20% 64% 16% 0% 100% 0% 20% Good MO 34% 47% 19% 20% 80% 0% 14% Good AL 36% 55% 9% 22% 78% 0% 14% Good IN 25% 31% 44% 18% 82% 0% 7% Good VA 52% 30% 18% 54% 46% 0% -2% Good AZ 29% 35% 35% 45% 55% 0% -16% Good NY 53% 25% 22% 75% 25% 0% -22% Good MN 34% 38% 28% 60% 40% 0% -26% Good CO 30% 27% 43% 60% 40% 0% -30% Good WA 52% 28% 20% 83% 17% 0% -31% Good MD 53% 23% 24% 90% 10% 0% -37% Good NJ 38% 21% 41% 79% 21% 0% -41% Good DE 48% 28% 24% 100% 0% 0% -52% Good MI 0% 0% 0% 53% 47% 0% -53% Good RI 43% 12% 45% 100% 0% 0% -57% Good MA 35% 10% 55% 100% 0% 0% -65% Good CT 30% 16% 54% 100% 0% 0% -70% Good IA 33% 35% 32% 0% 100% 0% 33% Fair PA 45% 39% 16% 42% 58% 0% 3% Fair ME 36% 29% 35% 50% 25% 25% -14% Fair CA 48% 24% 28% 83% 17% 0% -35% Fair NH 25% 23% 52% 100% 0% 0% -75% Fair OK 38% 52% 10% 0% 100% 0% 38% OK AR 15% 25% 60% 0% 100% 0% 15% OK AL 12% 24% 63% 0% 100% 0% 12% OK MS 24% 29% 47% 17% 83% 0% 7% OK SC 41% 49% 10% 11% 89% 0% 30% Bad ND 29% 43% 28% 0% 100% 0% 29% Bad LA 41% 47% 11% 25% 75% 0% 16% Bad TX 47% 38% 15% 33% 68% 0% 15% Bad UT 13% 60% 27% 0% 100% 0% 13% Bad FL 38% 41% 21% 27% 73% 0% 12% Bad NC 36% 28% 37% 25% 75% 0% 11% Bad KS 26% 47% 26% 17% 83% 0% 10% Bad TN 18% 34% 48% 9% 91% 0% 9% Bad OH 31% 31% 38% 29% 71% 0% 2% Bad WI 31% 37% 32% 30% 70% 0% 1% Bad GA 43% 27% 30% 44% 56% 0% -1% Bad IL 38% 28% 34% 84% 16% 0% -46% Bad NV 37% 36% 27% 83% 17% 0% -46% Bad OR 33% 26% 41% 88% 13% 0% -54% Bad NM 45% 31% 24% 100% 0% 0% -55% Bad VT 53% 20% 27% 67% 0% 33% -14% ??? HI 38% 14% 48% 100% 0% 0% -62% ??? 35.0% 35.3% 29.6% -
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