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August 28, 2020 at 6:46 pm #2260
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August 29, 2020 at 6:08 am #2264
Rocky17ParticipantMichael Moore, of all people, has an opinion about the conventions and their relative effectiveness.
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August 29, 2020 at 11:56 am #2269
MickParticipantMichael Moore is the only person of whom I’m aware that called the 2016 election for Trump before I did. He’s very much on top of that voter demographic and he’s right to sound the alarms.
What people don’t understand is that the average voter doesn’t want to be identified as a Trump voter…to anyone, and certainly not to pollsters. I still don’t think Trump will be re-elected and the Republicans will lose both the House and Senate, but the Presidential election will be closer than I thought.
Once the Democrats capture all three and Biden slides out of office and President Kamala Harris is sworn in (summer of 2021 is my guess), they’ll be overconfident and think they have a mandate, not realizing that people will have voted against Trump in the same way that they once voted against Hillary. They’ll return to forgetting about (and cr@pping upon) the lower middle and middle classes. In the old days, the Dems forgot about blue collar white voters. In these brave new times, the blue collar white voters are to be actively disliked because they’re, well, you know…white. And therefore deserving of disgust and hatred.
The midterm elections won’t be kind to the Dems.
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August 29, 2020 at 1:02 pm #2270
Rocky17ParticipantI still think Trump will win a landslide unless the mail in voting is corrupt.
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August 29, 2020 at 1:08 pm #2271
rjnwmillParticipantMick, I see nothing, nada, zip as a narrative that works for the democrats…other than another dossier and possible voter fraud.
For Orange, the debates, extended supplemental unemployment, (spread it around money in the finest Chicago tradition), maybe a payroll tax holiday that impacts 80,000,000 voters, prescription drug price declines for seniors, the Durham report, quotes about Biden’s performance from his guys, (Klein on H1N1, Gates on foreign policy. And by the way, Panetta was recently flummoxed trying to respond to questions about the Gates quote), riots/looting and defunding police, (Did you hear about peaceful protestors taking up residence in Teddy’s building in Portland?), the Biden’s personal and for profit relationship with China and Ukraine, therapeutics for COVID, a COVID vaccine in 11months, (Did you know that the fastest vaccine cycle in the US prior to operation Warp Speed was 4 years; mumps 50+ years ago), jobs, jobs, jobs, falling unemployment, an accommodative Fed; inflation and looser money is a good thing and last but not least Joe out and about! And to my eye, these narratives seem to fit well across a broad range of voter demographics. For Biden, help me understand who “Pay your fair share” motivates? Who exactly benefits when a bureaucracy that is running trillion dollar deficits takes in more money? Is that on the top of voters Christmas list? How about stopping fracking?
A do no harm, hold on and pray strategy vs in your face where there’s nowhere to hide? We’ll see. Contrary opinions are what makes it fun. And I’ll go the other way, Orange, a Senate majority and Pelosi loses in her run for minority leader. In 2024, it’s our first female president; Haley or the South Dakota Governor. Hope you’re as wrong here as Biden was with his Harris pick.
Here's a toast with one last pour, may it last forever and a minute more;
Good fortune seems to you have sung, to live and love way past long
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August 29, 2020 at 7:26 am #2265
LegendKeymasterMoore has a pretty good feel about these kinds of things.
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August 29, 2020 at 10:29 am #2266
rjnwmillParticipantI get the sense that the Orange campaign is hitting its stride. With this type of preparation, the debates could be a “Whoa Nellie” moment? Joe could become befuddled trying to remember and apply his canned…and misremembered lines. As the mental impairment is exposed and is recognized as irrefutable, will they send Jill or Kamala out to pull him from the stage?
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August 29, 2020 at 10:41 am #2267
LegendKeymaster- II I truly can’t wait to watch Biden in the debates. Trump will be trump, but it is 50/50 whether Biden will just start into a mashup of talking points that have been drilled into his head.
I can’t wait for him to give the “trust science, listen to experts, raise taxes for working people, you ain’t black, shut down the economy again” mashup.
by the way, I fully believe that Biden’s speech had higher viewership because at least in part a lot of people were waiting for him to self destruct with another “170 million people dead” confabulation.
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August 30, 2020 at 12:58 am #2274
Cornfed
ParticipantI am scared to death that expectations for Biden’s debate performance are so ridiculously low that he will be declared the winner if he is even standing at the end.
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August 30, 2020 at 10:50 am #2275
MickParticipant[quote quote=2274]I am scared to death that expectations for Biden’s debate performance are so ridiculously low that he will be declared the winner if he is even standing at the end.[/quote]
He just needs to perform as well as Melone:
https://youtu.be/fL2EAq1dcdM?t=428
Nancy Pelosi doesn’t think Biden should debate Trump. I think most Democrats don’t, though not for the reasons in Pelosi’s dissembling. I think I’d respect Pelosi more if she just told the truth: that Biden shouldn’t debate Trump because Biden’s cognitive impairment will be onstage for all to see. And BTW, her own cognitive skills are deteriorating.
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August 30, 2020 at 4:38 pm #2280
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Participant[quote quote=2269]Michael Moore is the only person of whom I’m aware that called the 2016 election for Trump before I did. He’s very much on top of that voter demographic and he’s right to sound the alarms. What people don’t understand is that the average voter doesn’t want to be identified as a Trump voter…to anyone, and certainly not to pollsters. I still don’t think Trump will be re-elected and the Republicans will lose both the House and Senate, but the Presidential election will be closer than I thought. Once the Democrats capture all three and Biden slides out of office and President Kamala Harris is sworn in (summer of 2021 is my guess), they’ll be overconfident and think they have a mandate, not realizing that people will have voted against Trump in the same way that they once voted against Hillary. They’ll return to forgetting about (and cr@pping upon) the lower middle and middle classes. In the old days, the Dems forgot about blue collar white voters. In these brave new times, the blue collar white voters are to be actively disliked because they’re, well, you know…white. And therefore deserving of disgust and hatred. The midterm elections won’t be kind to the Dems.[/quote]i
I am not going to predict the winner of this election, but right now I would rather be Red than Blue…
and Cornfed is right: the expectations for Biden are so low, that all he has to do is show up and CNN will annoying him as the winner.
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August 30, 2020 at 5:18 pm #2281
rjnwmillParticipantWatching the Portland mayor’s presser today, did anyone else flash back to General Honorè? No attempt to explain why the violence and death is occurring in cities run by democrats? No attempt to identify his failings for the last 400 days? {Journalist Andy Ngo was assaulted by ANTIFA thugs in June 2019} No suggestion as to why he won’t change course? Who buys his stay the course bs?
And screw the police chief. He’s now got blood on his hands too. He and his department have been totally ineffective within the context of the Wheeler debacle. At least the Seattle chief had the integrity to resign when she realized she couldn’t succeed; protect citizens and property, with the rules of engagement, diminished funding implemented by the city politicians.
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August 30, 2020 at 7:13 pm #2282
Beeg_Dawg
Participant[quote quote=2281]Watching the Portland mayor’s presser today, did anyone else flash back to General Honorè? No attempt to explain why the violence and death is occurring in cities run by democrats? No attempt to identify his failings for the last 400 days? {Journalist Andy Ngo was assaulted by ANTIFA thugs in June 2019} No suggestion as to why he won’t change course? Who buys his stay the course bs? And screw the police chief. He’s now got blood on his hands too. He and his department have been totally ineffective within the context of the Wheeler debacle. At least the Seattle chief had the integrity to resign when she realized she couldn’t succeed; protect citizens and property, with the rules of engagement, diminished funding implemented by the city politicians.[/quote]
Ted Wheeler heads the Portland Police Bureau. Portland had a good police chief in Danielle Outlaw, but she quickly tired of Wheeler’s BS and got the hell out of Portland, advancing her career at the same time. The chief’s job is determined by Wheeler, so I am not sure your meaning of “blood on his hands”. IMO, he should quit. Don’t know why anyone would want to CoP in this bureaucratic shithole.
Seattle’s chef quit when City Council cut her salary 40%. Said it felt like a personal attack .
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