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Our support of Ukraine always baffled me a bit. We didn’t have much of a relationship with them except for Hunter Biden taking huge bribes and Joe Biden admitting it (essentially) on air.
Trump campaigned on getting the war over with. Looks like it’s going to happen, looks like Zelensky is caving. No one gets everything they want. USA gets access to many mineral rights.
Zelensky surrenders to Trump and ‘will sign mineral deal within hours’
Audaces fortuna iuvat
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Didn’t the Dems and Obama sit back and let Russia conquer Crimea? Didn’t the Dems and Biden sit back and let Russia invade Ukraine? Neither was a surprise, yet the Dems did nothing, siding with Putin completely.
The rot does go deep. That’s what Trump and Musk are trying to fix. . . .
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@Legend, is this part of the gambit?
https://www.cnn.com/2025/02/24/politics/us-joins-russia-ukraine-un-vote/index.html
For those who keep harping on Crimea, it’s a ridiculous analogy. Neither Ukraine nor the West was prepared for the annexation. It was basically a fait accompli and would have required starting a war to reverse it. The invasion ten years later was a war thrust upon Ukrainians whether we wanted it or not. It is happening. We can support the pro democracy side and pro West side, or act like cowards and Neville Chamberlain, allowing naked aggression, terrorism, kidnapping, murder, rape, genocide, and blatant illegal annexation of a European country.
How is it that Republicans are on the wrong side of almost every major war? You were cheering on Bush when I was protesting that idiocy. Now you’re slinking away from the most important conflict in Europe in all of our lives. Insane.
Russia is weak. Putin can be defeated. Ukraine has been standing up to them with one arm tied behind its back and the bare minimum support.
What would I have done? The answer is, I would have given more support than Biden — though I don’t entirely blame him. Recall that Congress dithered for seven months last year before even bringing a vote to give Israel, Taiwan, and Ukraine aid. I had hoped for someone more competent than Biden, but you guys voted in dipshit Russian stooge who makes Biden look like a hero. The bar was so low, but you found someone who is even worse.
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Further? I guess we should have just given them nukes. That would have solved it, right?
I’m supportive of Ukraine’s fight for its sovereignty. I’m also supportive of actions that strengthen the U.S.’s position.
I’m not supportive of vast sums of U.S. tax dollars going to foreign governments.
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Sic transit gloria mundi (so shut up and get back to work)
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The answer is, I would have given more support than Biden — though I don’t entirely blame him. Recall that Congress dithered for seven months last year before even bringing a vote to give Israel, Taiwan, and Ukraine aid. I had hoped for someone more competent than Biden, but you guys voted in dipshit Russian stooge who makes Biden look like a hero. The bar was so low, but you found someone who is even worse.
Such a great call. Get further involved in a war against a country which has nothing but nuclear weapons, all pointed at us. Brilliant, hermano.
Yeah, Putin’s a bad guy. He won’t stop being a bad guy. Russia is a failing country, but they are not a failed country. What they are is a desperate country. And you want to, literally and figuratively, poke the bear. Brilliant, hermano.
If Ukraine had capitulated at the outset, there would be 500,000 fewer casualties, a trillion less spent that no one can afford and zero war crimes. Brilliant, hermano.
All this for a country that receives our support because of bribes to Hunter Biden and The Big Guy…as The Big Guy literally admitted to on video.
And you’re still perpetuating the literally-discredited-by-everyone “Russian stooge” trope.
Audaces fortuna iuvat
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Sure, go all in to against a despot who has a finger on the trigger of the worlds second largest nuclear arsenal. Makes sense to me…..not.
I see different outcomes than you do. Would Putin go nuclear? The possiblity exists.
If Putin perceives that Ukraine’s advances, combined with Western support, threaten Russia’s control over occupied territories (especially Crimea), he could escalate drastically rather than accept defeat.
A significant loss in Ukraine would weaken his grip on power domestically. Given Russia’s history of leaders being removed after military failures, he may consider extreme measures to prevent regime collapse.
Putin has repeatedly used nuclear threats as a deterrent, signaling that Russia might use tactical nuclear weapons if NATO intervenes directly or if Russia’s territorial integrity (including annexed regions) is at stake.
Russian military doctrine allows for nuclear use in the case of an existential threat to the state. Although Ukraine does not pose a direct threat, Putin could frame a potential defeat as such.I’d be interested in your thoughts about the latest move to end the war. Trump has re-arranged the pieces. Brilliant move or flawed strategy?
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