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BeyondThunderdome.
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April 1, 2025 at 1:38 pm #10037
Mick1ParticipantA lawyer, Tom Renz, who actually read Trump’s DOGE Executive Order and, expecting some illegal power grab, found it to be airtight. Turns out Trump and Musk didn’t create anything. Obama did.
Obama created United States Digital Service (USDS) in 2014. It was meant as a bureaucratic patch job to fix the Obamacare website meltdown.
Fast forward to 2025. Trump rebrands it DOGE (United States DOGE Service). Keeps the acronym, keeps the funding, but gives it a whole new mission: Find the Receipts.
Legally untouchable because it was already fully funded and operational. Trump invokes 5 USC 3161, which allows him to create temporary hiring authorities.
DOGE teams get embedded inside every single federal agency. Each team consists of a lawyer, HR rep, a zoomer nerd, and an investigator. They report to DOGE, not the agency they’re embedded in.
But wait, there’s more! Trump invokes 44 USC Chapter 35, which governs federal IT and cybersecurity oversight. Since USDS was originally an IT oversight body, DOGE now has full access to all federal data systems. Yes, that’s right. All of them.
His executive order is written to block legal challenges. Includes language that overrides conflicting executive orders. Orders every agency to comply. Refusal means they violate presidential authority.Congress can’t defund it because it’s not a new program, just a repurposed one. DOJ can’t sue for overreach because Trump used existing laws exactly as written. Democrats trying to file legal challenges run into standing issues because DOGE operates within existing frameworks.
Obama literally built the perfect Administrative (read: Deep State) IT backdoor.
Trump and Musk just hacked the system and took the admin controls. Musk now has legal oversight of every major agency’s internal systems. The Administrative State can’t stop it without rewriting multiple federal laws.They legally outplayed the system and there’s nothing anyone can do about it.
Obama created DOGE.Audaces fortuna iuvat
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April 1, 2025 at 2:14 pm #10038
Genuine RealistParticipantI’m going to cut and paste the complete Post on substack, of course claiming complete authorship like the sociopathic thief of intellectual property I am.
You should open a blog there. Much larger audience, potentially. Since Bari Weiss began the Free Press there, some three years ago (to which everyone should subscribe), the platform has become THE place for individual pundits.
I wouldn't give you two cents for all your fancy rules if, behind them, they didn't have a little bit of plain, ordinary, everyday kindness - yeah, and a little looking out for the other fella, too.
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April 1, 2025 at 6:59 pm #10039
Mick1ParticipantRenz wrote it on his own Substack. The Left has already fact-checked it with their own unique(ly skewed) perspective:
What is DOGE? Exploring the initiative’s creation, legality and purpose | Snopes.com
Fact Check: Did Barack Obama create DOGE and Donald Trump just renamed it? – MEAWW News
A DOGE Origin Story: How Barack Obama Laid The Groundwork For Elon Musk
Audaces fortuna iuvat
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April 2, 2025 at 4:30 pm #10040
Genuine RealistParticipantThe Note I actually wrote:
https://substack.com/profile/64073585-frank-dudley-berry-jr/note/c-105479033
I included an acknowledgment of Renz. Substance is close to being a victim of its own success. Everyone and his brother has a blog there.
I’ll stand with my advice. You should consider your own.
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Genuine Realist.
I wouldn't give you two cents for all your fancy rules if, behind them, they didn't have a little bit of plain, ordinary, everyday kindness - yeah, and a little looking out for the other fella, too.
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April 2, 2025 at 8:54 pm #10042
Mick1ParticipantI’ll stand with my advice. You should consider your own.
I agree. Now, I just need a name for it…do any of these grab you?
- The Radical Middle
- Militant Moderation
- Both Sides Now (But Actually)
- Goldilocks Politics
- The Centrist Manifesto
- Middle of the Rant
- Equally Disappointing Everyone
- The Bipartisan Heckler
- Lukewarm Takes
- The Compromise Chronicles
- Common Sense Extremism
- The Overton Window Shopper
- Purple Pilled
- Neither Here Nor There
- Zero Sum Fun
- Mildly Radical
- Fence-Sitting with Style
- The Sensible Insurrection
- Meet Me in the Middle (or Else)
- Half Left, Half Right, All Wrong
- The Moderate Menace
- Nuance or Never
- The Radical Squish
- The Contrarian Compromise
- The Golden Mean Times
- Holding the Center Hostage
- Centrists Without Borders
- The Partisan Whisperer
- Extremist for Balance
- The Civil War Referee
- Moderation: Impossible
- The Policy Porcupine (Hard to Hug, But Worth It)
- Middle Ground or Bust
- Both Sides Against the Middle
- The Bell Curve Battalion
- Pox on Both Houses Weekly
- Split Ticket Circus
- Centrism Is My Co-Pilot
- The Swamp Drain Plug
- The Sensible Zealot
- The Rational Middle Rager
- Moderation Nation
- The 51/49 Newsletter
- Gray Matter Politics
- Independents’ Day, Every Day
- No Sacred Cows, Just Medium-Rare Takes
- Boring Yet Correct
- Swing State of Mind
- The Common Ground Pounder
- Live Free & Compromise
Audaces fortuna iuvat
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April 3, 2025 at 6:22 am #10044
BeyondThunderdome
ParticipantI’m guessing Obama didn’t staff it with idiots who are taking a hatchet to important programs they knew little or nothing about.
Should there be some cuts? Probably. But not the way they are going about it.
NO MALARKEY
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