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July 5, 2024 at 4:33 pm #8588
Mick1ParticipantYou’ve no doubt seen that Harris is being pushed from within as the most likely opponent for Trump. Seems like everyone wants Biden to step down.
Thing is, though…unless Biden wants to step down, he doesn’t have to step down. So that’s going to be an effort, because they haven’t signaled that Biden is anywhere close to stepping down.
But if he did…and Harris would be the presumptive nominee…she would be obliterated by Trump. Daily Mail says Trump has an 11-point lead over Harris:
Donald Trump Destroys Kamala Harris in New Poll
Which shouldn’t surprise anyone. Harris finished 14th in the 2020 New Hampshire primary and withdrew thereafter with her 127 votes. She’s not ready to be president, no matter how many times she slept with Willie Brown while he was still married but giving her political patronage jobs.
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July 6, 2024 at 1:46 pm #8591
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ParticipantI think this is not even remotely surprising. The 2 surprising things to me in the last week have been that Biden has not already stepped down, and that Harris is even being floated. But I am not a politician, just a double-hating voter.
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July 15, 2024 at 1:05 am #8615
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July 15, 2024 at 11:34 am #8620
Mick1ParticipantTrump has held a 3% lead pretty consistently. And there are some indications that the Dems are resigned to a Trump presidency. Biden has zero intention of backing out, no matter how ineffective and physically not-up-to-the-task he is. People have been signalling since 2020 that Biden was incapable, and frankly…Biden was only electable as a moderate, really the only moderate in the Dem 2020 field of contenders (outside of Tulsi Gabbard). And Biden has governed as a Progressive. His prerogative, but a big, big part of the reason that the country wants Trump is because the country’s not Progressive as a whole.
The Dems have made some really bad mistakes over the past few years. Paying off student loans, putatively with the taxes of hard-working blue-collar types was…not very smart. Allowing in 8x to 12x the number of illegal immigrants vs. Trump’s numbers…also not smart. Stubborn homeless numbers, California cratering, Texas and Florida succeeding…doesn’t help the Dems. And in the wake of an assassination attempt, Representative AOC makes a “Fascist” reference to Trump.
One other major issue — America is sprinting away from Chinese manufacturing and reshoring our manufacturing base. The most accepted number is that over the next ten years we will double the amount of on-shore and near-shore (e.g., Canada and Mexico) manufacturing. Trump’s greatest strengths during his presidency was to encourage legislation that promoted that reshoring, including positioning Mexico as a preferred economic partner. Quite a trick.
All of that, coupled with Biden’s inexorable march to dementia, is enough to push independents — like me — to Trump in large numbers. The Dems have basically given up hope that Biden will drop out.
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July 18, 2024 at 7:26 am #8629
 
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