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    • #3855
      Rocky17Rocky17
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      He is probably finished at Michigan but I still wish he would have stayed at Stanford.  Shaw`s ship began leaking slowly immediately after taking over and after all these years, the ship is mostly filled with water as recruiting has tanked and O philosophy is aimless and incoherent.  Despite the Shaw pedigree, Harbaugh was what Stanford needed.  Shaw is just part of the Stanford deep state bureaucracy.

      https://www.maizenbrew.com/football/2020/11/29/21724600/jim-harbaugh-michigan-wolverines-contract-era-come-to-end

    • #3857
      cardcrimsoncardcrimson
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      Not much of an argument from me. Though Harbaugh had probably lost some of the players when he left. Shaw would be an okay coach if he got some decent coordinators that could recruit.

    • #3858
      Rocky17Rocky17
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      Shaw is a class act who has always represented the university well and impeccably.  He is the perfect coach from the administration point of view.  He is an average recruiter, however.  He has two other obvious flaws.  He is a sub par O co-ordinator and refuses to hire coaches that could over shadow himself ability wise.  All of Harbaugh’s coaches were top echelon guys that Jim let run the show without much interference.  Shaw is controlling.  Class guy but too egotistical for his own good.  Saban is more like Harbaugh and hires the best guy to do the job with the best philosophy so the likelihood of winning is high.  Sometimes I get the impression the most important issue for Shaw is control and winning is superfluous.  I am sure he wants to win but he thinks his way is best for that goal and I disagree.  So far, I think my argument is more persuasive.

    • #3859
      AvatarBeeg_Dawg
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      Rocky, Harbs was never gonna stay at Stanford.  He has a very short shelf life, and his shtick was well worn before he left.

      Maybe Bernard wakes up when fans don’t return after the pandemic, but I doubt it.  It could very well be Shaw the last Head Coach for Stanford football.

    • #3860
      Rocky17Rocky17
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      BD, you may very well be right on both counts, certainly the first one.  If Stanford football is to survive, we will need a Harbaugh type guy and not a milktoast go with the flow and buy a second house in Aptos on the ocean head coach.  I like Oregon`s HC a bunch but why would anyone that good come to Stanford under Muir and that faculty.

      • #3862
        cardcrimsoncardcrimson
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        [quote quote=3859]Maybe Bernard wakes up when fans don’t return after the pandemic, but I doubt it. [/quote]

        Hilarious. Fans weren’t going BEFORE the pandemic. . . .

    • #3861
      johnnyo53johnnyo53
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      Next stop for Harbs: NYJ

      “I remember that one fateful day when Coach took me aside. I knew what was coming. "You don't have to tell me," I said. "I'm off the team, aren't I?" "Well," said Coach, "you never were really ON the team. You made that uniform you're wearing out of rags and towels, and your helmet is a toy space helmet. You show up at practice and then either steal the ball and make us chase you to get it back, or you try to tackle people at inappropriate times." It was all true what he was saying. And yet, I

    • #3864
      Avatargpn38
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      [quote quote=3859]Rocky, Harbs was never gonna stay at Stanford. He has a very short shelf life, and his shtick was well worn before he left. Maybe Bernard wakes up when fans don’t return after the pandemic, but I doubt it. It could very well be Shaw the last Head Coach for Stanford football.[/quote]

      Exactly BD. On point with both topics.
      Muir will be the AD who navigates Stanford out of College Football.

    • #3867
      AvatarBeeg_Dawg
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      Harbaugh to the Lions?

       

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