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January 4, 2023 at 1:23 pm #6785
Hurlburt88
Participantprobably a really dumb question . . . why don’t a handful of center-right Dems throw in with the plurality of Republicans on this speaker vote, and obviously then get favors down the road?
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January 4, 2023 at 1:45 pm #6786
rogpodge
ParticipantParty discipline and the Dems mean it when they punish people for non-compliance.
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January 4, 2023 at 2:16 pm #6787
Cornfed
ParticipantPlus Dems are much more caught up in what other liberals think of them. Vulnerable to peer pressure. Lemmings.
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January 4, 2023 at 8:56 pm #6789
rjnwmillParticipantMcCarthy is demonstrating his incompetence/inability to handle the job. He has no leverage until he wins the speakership.
He’s left to old school back room politics. Dissemble about issues, opponents and how he intends to get to 218. I saw an interview with Chip Roy. The Republican dissidents advanced him for the Rules Committee to insure that members would have an opportunity to read bills before a vote. No more omnibus style votes. McCarthy dismissed the offer publicly claiming it was individuals seeking personal power.
This bull deceives voters and hides the issues in play. Inside baseball. No way to drain the swamp with important matters purposely held from view.
I hope the dissidents hold firm and force McCarthy to capitulate. I think it’s his only way for him to get the job and then see if he’s up to it. He’ll have some measure of increased leverage after he wins the job.
Here's a toast with one last pour, may it last forever and a minute more;
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January 5, 2023 at 7:53 am #6790
Neodymium60
ParticipantMcCarthy is like an expensive new car with a dead battery. He’s a really good rainmaker but I’d prefer General Sherman for now. So I give McCarthy a down vote but I think weasels in somehow. I give the 20 rogue Republicans an upvote for having some stones. In the end there is no such thing as bad publicity so it’s pretty good theater for the Republican Party. Like to see another 50 votes or so just for something to do until the NFL playoffs.
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January 6, 2023 at 4:06 pm #6793
Beeg_Dawg
Participant[quote quote=6790]McCarthy is like an expensive new car with a dead battery. He’s a really good rainmaker but I’d prefer General Sherman for now. So I give McCarthy a down vote but I think weasels in somehow. I give the 20 rogue Republicans an upvote for having some stones. In the end there is no such thing as bad publicity so it’s pretty good theater for the Republican Party. Like to see another 50 votes or so just for something to do until the NFL playoffs.[/quote]
You want Sherman and we have McClellan. At this point, McCarthy will be no more effective as Speaker than Joe Biden is as President. It would serve the GOP right if 5 members joined with libs and elected Jeffries as speaker.
McCarthy will be unable to lead. He should step aside.
 
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January 5, 2023 at 10:26 am #6791
rjnwmillParticipantI imagine McCarthy will ultimately prevail. If I were he, two quick steps, require members to be in the building to vote. Second reorder the schedule canceling vacation days and in district days to fully replace the time lost on these votes.
Show a commitment to the people’s business and share the pain. If it gets in the way of AOC wearing a statement dress to this years Met Gala on May 1, so be it. 😂
Here's a toast with one last pour, may it last forever and a minute more;
Good fortune seems to you have sung, to live and love way past long - 
January 7, 2023 at 6:54 am #6794
Neodymium60
Participant[quote quote=6793][quote quote=6790]McCarthy is like an expensive new car with a dead battery. He’s a really good rainmaker but I’d prefer General Sherman for now. So I give McCarthy a down vote but I think weasels in somehow. I give the 20 rogue Republicans an upvote for having some stones. In the end there is no such thing as bad publicity so it’s pretty good theater for the Republican Party. Like to see another 50 votes or so just for something to do until the NFL playoffs.[/quote] You want Sherman and we have McClellan. At this point, McCarthy will be no more effective as Speaker than Joe Biden is as President. It would serve the GOP right if 5 members joined with libs and elected Jeffries as speaker. McCarthy will be unable to lead. He should step aside.[/quote]
McClellan. That’s pretty good.
I enjoyed the whole thing and wish McCarthy well.
 
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