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November 13, 2025 at 11:24 am #10735
MickParticipantDemocrat party snobs, says Chris Mathews. Incidentally, I used to read the SF newspapers in which Chris Mathews was fairly middle-of-the-road, until Obama sent a tingle up his leg.
Chris Matthews blames Democrats’ snobbery for Trump support in working class | Fox News
Doesn’t surprise me. Democrats are run by Wall Street, Silicon Valley and Hollywood, all the classic big money snobs. Secondarily, Democrats are run by Big Academia, Big Law and Big Government. Not as much money, but plenty of snobbery. And the 173 billionaires who donated to Democrat causes in 2020 and 2024. And the feminist and LGBTQ communities.
My mother is a pretty typical Democrat. Voted for Hillary and Kamala, and any other female candidate. Can’t stand men, but in particular cannot stand blue collar white men. She’s not vocal enough to be a Karen, but she has Karen sensibilities.
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November 13, 2025 at 2:17 pm #10737
Genuine RealistParticipantBarack Obama. My favorite President in terms of personal charm – I’d love to meet the guy – but he turned the Party over to academic liberals between 2009 and 2017.
Thus, the Dear Colleague letters, the trans nonsense, diversity (which most Americans approve as a value) calcifying into DEI, defund the police – who needs police on campus? – and all the rest.
I wouldn't give you two cents for all your fancy rules if, behind them, they didn't have a little bit of plain, ordinary, everyday kindness - yeah, and a little looking out for the other fella, too.
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November 14, 2025 at 9:43 am #10738
MickParticipantGR, your wealth tax concept is about to get a real-world test.
A ballot initiative in California is being proposed by the healthcare workers union. A one-time, 5% tax on California’s 255 billionaires, solely on their wealth over $1 billion. Supporters say it could raise $100 billion and offset looming cuts to Medicaid.
Not surprisingly, Gavin Newsom is against it. Newsom’s team is launching a PAC called “Stop the Squeeze,” correctly terming it a “can of worms sliding down a slippery slope (two cliches at once, must be good) by taxing cars, houses, wheelbarrows and everything else.”
San Jose Mayor Matt Mahan is against it for the best reason (I think) stating that “I don’t know that people fully appreciate the vulnerability we face as a state when it comes to our revenue sources.” True that. 1/3rd of CA revenue comes from the Top 1%.
The California Campaign to Introduce a First-of-Its-Kind Billionaire’s Tax – WSJ
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November 15, 2025 at 6:38 pm #10741
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ParticipantUntil any of the proposed revenue enhancing taxes includes a firewall that reduces spending dollar for dollar for each $ raised, it is money that will be wasted on grants, giveaways and graft.
When funds from this one time tax are gone, libs will pass the hat again, this time to help the poor, homeless, pay off student loans, save Mother Earth-pick your favorite cause.
Great example is Covid money. Seems to be no end to state and local governments crying about a loss of funds, when the real problem is it’s funding that was meant to be temporary. Bureaucrats readjusted budgets as if the funding would be permanent.
Libs are about to run out of other peoples money, and they are starting to panic.
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November 16, 2025 at 9:42 am #10742
MickParticipantThis is a chart showing (a) how interest payments as a percentage of Federal revenue have grown over time and (b) how the growth of that percentage has accelerated.
Meaning we’re in vast fiscal trouble. There are too many needs, real and perceived, that the politicians want to fund, so they keep borrowing against the future. It’s going to crash at some point, and it’s already raised inflation to ridiculous heights.
Fiscal Year Interest Payments as % of Federal Revenue ~ 1991 ~ 8 % (interest cost reached high mark then) Peterson Foundation+2AAF+2 ~ 2008 ~ 9.6 % (interest payments ≈ $242 billion out of tax revenue ≈ $2.5 trillion) Wikipedia+1 ~ 2024-25 ~ 18–19 % (interest payments projected to be ~19% of revenues) AAF+2Trading Economics+2 -
November 18, 2025 at 11:06 am #10754
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November 18, 2025 at 1:32 pm #10755
MickParticipant“I’ve raised at least $50 million for the left,” recalls Evan Barker at The Free Press, but “on Tuesday, I voted for Donald Trump.”
How my party lost me, Dems must return to normalcy and other commentary | New York Post
But “the final straw was Oprah Winfrey’s tone-deaf speech” at the Dem convention: “A larger than life Hollywood billionaire” who “said nothing that spoke to the Americans who had once constituted the Democratic base.”
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December 3, 2025 at 5:24 pm #10794
MickParticipant[quote quote=10738]GR, your wealth tax concept is about to get a real-world test. A ballot initiative in California is being proposed by the healthcare workers union. A one-time, 5% tax on California’s 255 billionaires, solely on their wealth over $1 billion. Supporters say it could raise $100 billion and offset looming cuts to Medicaid. Not surprisingly, Gavin Newsom is against it. Newsom’s team is launching a PAC called “Stop the Squeeze,” correctly terming it a “can of worms sliding down a slippery slope (two cliches at once, must be good) by taxing cars, houses, wheelbarrows and everything else.” San Jose Mayor Matt Mahan is against it for the best reason (I think) stating that “I don’t know that people fully appreciate the vulnerability we face as a state when it comes to our revenue sources.” True that. 1/3rd of CA revenue comes from the Top 1%. The California Campaign to Introduce a First-of-Its-Kind Billionaire’s Tax – WSJ[/quote]
Gavin Newsom opposes California ‘billionaire tax’ as he eyes 2028 White House bid
Knew it. He’s conscious of and concerned about billionaires leaving (a) California and (b) the Democrat party. So Newsom isn’t going to say or do anything to offend the state’s billionaires.
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