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Here’s the definition of treason, per the US Penal Code.
Whoever, owing allegiance to the United States, levies war against them or adheres to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort within the United States or elsewhere, is guilty of treason and shall suffer death, or shall be imprisoned not less than five years and fined under this title but not less than $10,000; and shall be incapable of holding any office under the United States. 18 USC 2851.
You can make a colorable argument that storming the Congress with an aim of preventing the tally of votes from the Electoral College is ‘levying war’. I think the argument succeeds because of the interference with the essential task of government. But reasonable minds could disagree.
However, the charge of seditious conspiracy (from the same chapter of the USC) is right on the money.
If two or more persons in any State or Territory, or in any place subject to the jurisdiction of the United States, conspire to overthrow, put down, or to destroy by force the Government of the United States, or to levy war against them, or to oppose by force the authority thereof, or by force to prevent, hinder, or delay the execution of any law of the United States, or by force to seize, take, or possess any property of the United States contrary to the authority thereof, they shall each be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than twenty years, or both. 18 USC 2384.
None of the other Presidential and gubernatorial actions comes remotely close. (Stacy Abrams made an ass of herself, but she did not organize a mob to march on the Georgia capital.)
Trump should have been indicted and tried on treason and sedition charges a year ago. As I wrote in another post, the only reason it hasn’t happened is that Biden needs him.
I wouldn't give you two cents for all your fancy rules if, behind them, they didn't have a little bit of plain, ordinary, everyday kindness - yeah, and a little looking out for the other fella, too.
I have to disagree.
It was very much like the Reichstag Fire, or the Bastille, one principal difference being that the institutions of the nation were strong enough to withstand it. Even so, it was a near thing. If the mob had been able to seize a hostage, Pelosi or Pence, the consequences would have been serious. I can guarantee you Trump would have tried to negotiate his way into a second term. It would have been awful.
The other difference is that this was the President of the United States leading the charge, with no regard for the most sacred tradition of this nation, the one he should have been duty bound to protect. And he didn’t have a leg to stand on, then or now. It makes no difference. He is convinced that he was cheated out of an election that he lost, fair and square.
I have no use for the Democratic progressives. Any sane Republican should waltz into the White House. The colossal fallacies of its energy policy, its obsession with identity politics, and all the rest, are being exposed day by day. Its only asset is that, by the damned luck of the devil, the spokesman for the opposition is this self-obsessed, semi-psychotic traitor. (So he was an effective executive? So Mussolini made the trains run on time. Get your priorities straight.)
I never thought I’d have any use for Andrew Jackson, but Jackson would have hung Trump two days after taking office. My cynical view is that the only reason Trump has NOT been indicted is that Biden wants him viable for 2024. He’s hoping to gain a second term on another Lesser Evil platform. He might succeed, if people who should know better don’t come to their senses.
I wouldn't give you two cents for all your fancy rules if, behind them, they didn't have a little bit of plain, ordinary, everyday kindness - yeah, and a little looking out for the other fella, too.
My major priority for a President is that he doesn’t commit treason – that he recognizes that the miracle of the American political tradition is that power changes hands peacefully, and accommodates that tradition.
I really don’t care about Trump’s triumphs as President. He wasn’t close to a great President – he undercut everything he did by the chaos and needless controversy that he created. His attitude toward the 2020 Election borders on the psychotic. He’s spent tens of millions looking for fraud in the election, found nothing, was told that fact by every sensible person in the Administration, and yet he persists. Persons with a personality order that pronounced are not qualified for any office. (Just why and when you bought into this absolutely absurd personality cult is something for you to figure out. Good luck.)
And he committed treason – publicly and indisputably. Sort of a disqualifying act, don’t you think?
I wouldn't give you two cents for all your fancy rules if, behind them, they didn't have a little bit of plain, ordinary, everyday kindness - yeah, and a little looking out for the other fella, too.
The Democrats have done nothing but negative stuff, and would be in epic trouble . . . were it not for the GOP idiots who remain loyal to that narcissistic felon. Trump replaces Aaron Burr as the worst member of the executive in history.
So dump him. Stop calling the opposition RINO’s. Trump’s the RINO. It’s an idiot personality cult, and its center figure has literally committed treason. Move on.
Then line up the canons against Biden.
I wouldn't give you two cents for all your fancy rules if, behind them, they didn't have a little bit of plain, ordinary, everyday kindness - yeah, and a little looking out for the other fella, too.
Pretty serious stuff and pretty impressive presentation.
The GOP would have done well to treat Donald Trump as radioactive after 1/6. There was simply nothing to be said in defense or mitigation.
I wouldn't give you two cents for all your fancy rules if, behind them, they didn't have a little bit of plain, ordinary, everyday kindness - yeah, and a little looking out for the other fella, too.
FWIW, with little fuss or fanfare, the Post fired Sonmez today.
I wouldn't give you two cents for all your fancy rules if, behind them, they didn't have a little bit of plain, ordinary, everyday kindness - yeah, and a little looking out for the other fella, too.
‘Insurrection’ is the usual hyperbole, in the same way that the opposition to Trump immediately after the election called itself ‘The Resistance’, shamelessly adopting the name of a group of individuals who took real risks and exhibited real courage.
Which does not change the fact that Donald Trump committed palpable treason on January 6th, and should be made to pay for it. The numbers may not be all that large, but if that mob had managed to take a hostage – Nancy Pelosi, or someone – and this was a near thing – we would have been witness to a real banana republic disgrace.
The sooner Trump is identified as the Aaron Burr successor he actually is, a traitor in the most basic definition of the word, the better off the GOP will be. (The hell with all this RINO nonsense – Trump is the poseur).
As noted above, Trump is the Democrat’s best chance for 2024. Precisely the reason, in my cynical opinion, why the Biden Administration has not gone forward with a conventional prosecution.
I wouldn't give you two cents for all your fancy rules if, behind them, they didn't have a little bit of plain, ordinary, everyday kindness - yeah, and a little looking out for the other fella, too.
This should have been ordinary grand jury stuff on day 2. There was no reason to politicize this with a Congressional committee.
My own cynical view is that it didn’t happen because Trump is far more useful to Biden than he is to the GOP, for which he remains a continual embarrassment. Without Trump, the absurdities of the Democrats are fully visible.
Biden hopes to run in 2024 against Trump on another lesser evil ticket. His best chance.
I wouldn't give you two cents for all your fancy rules if, behind them, they didn't have a little bit of plain, ordinary, everyday kindness - yeah, and a little looking out for the other fella, too.
You have to feel for the parents here. I get the impression that the causes of her suicidal spiral were actually rather slight. A word from the parent to whom she was closer might have changed everything.
This is one of those situations where privilege gets in the way.
I wouldn't give you two cents for all your fancy rules if, behind them, they didn't have a little bit of plain, ordinary, everyday kindness - yeah, and a little looking out for the other fella, too.
Reading the account, it seems the offense was throwing anything rather than some ethnic insult.
I wouldn't give you two cents for all your fancy rules if, behind them, they didn't have a little bit of plain, ordinary, everyday kindness - yeah, and a little looking out for the other fella, too.
I thought (from the excerpts I saw) that he did very well on the stand.
The low road taken by the prosecution is also very unimpressive. You don’t comment on a defendant’s silence – ever. It’s pretty well-established black letter law.
So his chances seem very good to me.
I wouldn't give you two cents for all your fancy rules if, behind them, they didn't have a little bit of plain, ordinary, everyday kindness - yeah, and a little looking out for the other fella, too.
Sickening
I wouldn't give you two cents for all your fancy rules if, behind them, they didn't have a little bit of plain, ordinary, everyday kindness - yeah, and a little looking out for the other fella, too.
It never has been, if that matters.
I wouldn't give you two cents for all your fancy rules if, behind them, they didn't have a little bit of plain, ordinary, everyday kindness - yeah, and a little looking out for the other fella, too.
Unfortunately, the credibility of the New York Times on this kind of story is non-existent.
Such a beautiful story, with nary a glitch or gap, and, as always, completely unsourced.
I wouldn't give you two cents for all your fancy rules if, behind them, they didn't have a little bit of plain, ordinary, everyday kindness - yeah, and a little looking out for the other fella, too.
I was one of the earliest skeptics about Holmes, back when there were plenty of True Believers. The company just didn’t make sense in terms of start ups with which I was familiar. That even caused some family friction.
That said, this whole process is way, way over the top. The circus has come to town. We have found our Witch. I wouldn’t have brought the case in the first place – just not that much societal gain – and would definitely have let her plead out.
It’s as if all the people that bought into what were clearly some very dubious claims now have to vindicate themselves by pummeling her.
I wouldn't give you two cents for all your fancy rules if, behind them, they didn't have a little bit of plain, ordinary, everyday kindness - yeah, and a little looking out for the other fella, too.
