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    • #10970
      MickMick
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      …by U-Haul, in terms of one-way outmigration. Smaller net loss in 2025 than 2024. Other bottom five states were Massachusetts, New York, New Jersey, Illinois. Data compiled from 2.5 million+ one-way transactions

      Top states for growth, Texas #1, Florida #2, followed by North Carolina and Tennessee. Top ten includes Washington, Arizona, Alabama, Georgia.

      Sense a pattern?

      U-Haul Growth Index: Texas Back on Top as No. 1 Growth State of 2025 | U-Haul

       

       

    • #10971
      AvatarBeeg_Dawg
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      Outside of no income tax and cheaper property, there is not much to gain (if anything) by moving from Cali to WA.

      While the overall tax burden appears low, gas tax, fees, tolls, real estate tax (on gross $ when selling real estate), estate taxes, car tags and a hefty tax on capital gains plus additional utility fees.  It’s a LONNGGG list.  I’ve seen some estimates the average WA resident pays $5000 more in taxes and fees than taxpayers in other states.

      On the docket is a wealth tax and sales tax. Sitting on the border of Oregon and Washington, it’s fun to watch legislatures in both states try to add a sales tax in Oregon and income tax in Washington using the same talking points.

      After the largest tax increase in Washington’s history, there is still a revenue shortfall.  Rather than prioritize programs, dems are out looking for more ways to generate revenue.  Ugh.

       

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      Avatarrogpodge
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    • #11006
      MickMick
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      Companies that have left, or announced plans to leave, including major divisions, since Newsom became Governor. More than $1 trillion in annual sales:

      AECOM
      CBRE Group, Inc.
      Chevron Corporation
      Hewlett Packard Enterprise
      In-N-Out Burger
      John Paul Mitchell Systems (Paul Mitchell)
      McKesson Corporation
      Nestle USA
      Oracle Corporation
      Palantir Technologies
      Public Storage
      Realtor.com (Move, Inc.)
      SpaceX
      Tesla, Inc.
      The Charles Schwab Corporation
      Valero Energy Corporation
      Wells Fargo Wealth & Investment Management (division)
      X (formerly Twitter)

       

    • #11017
      MickMick
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      Karl Rove says Newsom’s single greatest weakness heading into 2028 is his horrific record as California’s governor:

      • 32nd on the economy
      • 36th in pre-K-12 education
      • 43rd in public safety
      • 42nd on fiscal stability
      • 45th on growth
      • 46th on employment
      • 50th for opportunity
      • 50th for quality of life
      • Housing cost literally twice the national average. Only Hawaii and District of Columbia are more expensive.

      Karl Rove Reveals Gavin Newsom’s Greatest Weakness

    • #11018
      AvatarHurlburt88
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      I can’t help but see him getting carved up during the nomination process.   he is sharp & clever, but this is just such low-hanging fruit for his opponents . . . or should I say rotten fruit LOL

    • #11020
      AvatarBeeg_Dawg
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      [quote quote=11018]I can’t help but see him getting carved up during the nomination process. he is sharp & clever, but this is just such low-hanging fruit for his opponents . . . or should I say rotten fruit LOL[/quote]

      Sharp and clever or well rehearsed?

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