Do you think we dodged a recession?

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    • #7272
      Mick1Mick1
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      The real rate has finally moved into positive territory after a 500 basis point rise.

      Did we just dodge a recession? | The Hill

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    • #7274
      rjnwmillrjnwmill
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      No.

      The Hill is looking backwards, not forwards.  It’s difficult to see the hazards in front of you when you’re looking exclusively in the rear view mirror.

      Yellen screwed the pooch. In 2021 when the Fed opened the floodgates long term interest rates were significantly reduced. The Treasury failed to take advantage of an unusual opportunity to increase the duration of the nations debt obligations. Now over 50% of the outstanding portfolio has to be refinanced over the next 30 months. The appetite for longer durations is drying up. Short term t-bill rates are up from 50 basis to 550 basis points in the last two years. Accordingly debt service costs are going parabolic with no hope of slowing down.

      As to the “health” of the consumer, there’s this:

      Another data point: “Costco’s average transaction. Its ticket size fell 3½% in the U.S. and 4.2% globally. The company’s CFO also noted that COST customers are downshifting from more expensive discretionary items into cheaper “essentials”. This reflects a pattern being reported by most retailers, outside of the luxury segment.””

      Mick, I think we’re in the first three innings, not the last three innings of this virus initiated economic dislocation…and policy failures out of DC will exacerbate the problems.

      Here's a toast with one last pour, may it last forever and a minute more;
      Good fortune seems to you have sung, to live and love way past long

    • #7275
      cardcrimsoncardcrimson
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      Clients I have all have really strong backlogs. While some were concerned about a drop, most of those fears are gone. Look for growth in spite of the best efforts of Joe and Janet.

    • #7278
      Mick1Mick1
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      We were flat in the first quarter of the year, then had a very good April, and an explosive May. I don’t know about other industries, but the legal profession appears to be doing pretty well. Human nature hasn’t changed much…

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    • #7287
      Mick1Mick1
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      Just talked with a friend of mine who regularly polls about 400 general counsels at large-scale companies. He says, with almost no exceptions, that they all have directed their law firms to directly address outstanding legal issues — cost be damned. In other words, cost is no object, and the clients are not negotiating fees. They all think the economy is doing well.

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    • #7291
      cardcrimsoncardcrimson
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      Yet Dollar General missed its numbers and Costco says shoppers are going for less expensive options. . ..

    • #7293
      Mick1Mick1
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      Mick Jr. has a mid-management position at Nvidia…he’s fairly optimistic about the economy.

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    • #7294
      cardcrimsoncardcrimson
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      Mixed bag for some of my clients. Industrial and hi tech manufacturing going strong, shakiness with consumers. . . .

    • #7295
      rjnwmillrjnwmill
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      [quote quote=7293]Mick Jr. has a mid-management position at Nvidia…he’s fairly optimistic about the economy.[/quote]

      Hopefully they have a generous option plan for mid managers and that Mick Jr. is fully vested. 😉

      Here's a toast with one last pour, may it last forever and a minute more;
      Good fortune seems to you have sung, to live and love way past long

      • #7302
        Mick1Mick1
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        Hopefully they have a generous option plan for mid managers and that Mick Jr. is fully vested. 😉

        He’s very well taken care of, indeed.

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    • #7297
      Avatarrogpodge
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