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CNN suspends Cuomo for shaping his brother’s defense. Now if they’d just suspend the rest of the network for working with Biden, Schumer and Pelosi by shaping their narratives. . . .
https://www.cnn.com/2021/11/30/media/chris-cuomo-suspended/index.html
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Katy Tur of MSNBC apparently read Cuomo spin on the air.
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Not to worry. The Legal Intelligencer claims that the media is actually harsher on Democrats.
https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2021/08/why-the-media-is-worse-for-biden-than-trump.html
Ha. Ha. Ha.
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[quote quote=5604]Not to worry. The Legal Intelligencer claims that the media is actually harsher on Democrats. https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2021/08/why-the-media-is-worse-for-biden-than-trump.html Ha. Ha. Ha.[/quote]
“The other half of the media is a right-wing messaging apparatus that makes no effort to follow traditional journalistic norms. Republicans communicate to their base through a media that functionally operates as part of their party, while Democrats communicate to their base through a media that still exerts substantial independence. If you want to understand the strange difficulty that Joe Biden’s sane, competent administration has in yielding measurably higher approval than Trump’s insane, incompetent presidency, the asymmetrical relationship between the two parties and their respective media environments is the most important place to start.”
Beyond belief. . . .
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Rubbish. The Dems are far more protected by the traditional media providers (think NBC, ABC, CBS, PBS, CNN).
ALL new media providers are slanted criminally (MSNBC, FOX, not even mentioning OAN). That’s where the money is.
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Holy sheet! So Fox dominates cable news networks by a few points? Maybe that’s because 1) liberals don’t have to watch cable news to get their daily dose of conservatives are bad 2) Far right leaning conservatives have no where else to go. This is so fricking ridiculous I thought this was something from the Onion.
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I see y’all are still talking about “the media” as if it’s 1990.
Meanwhile the right wing owns most local newspapers, AM radio is a vast wasteland of right wing reactionary shows that are popular throughout the country, conservative podcast are some of the most popular, the majority of the daily top 10 trending stories in Facebook are usually right wing sources like Ben Shapiro, Breitbart, Newsmax, The Daily Caller, Dan Bongino, Fox News, Franklin Graham, etc., Rupert Murdoch has built up a global media empire, Fox is the number one cable news in America, and now we have OAN, Newmax, and even Trump is starting his own media thing. I could go on…
Its amazing to me how much mileage you all get from criticizing CNN as if it casts some great shadow on America. It doesn’t even reach 800k viewers each night and those viewers have a have a median age of 64.
just a reminder that it’s almost 2022 and the right wing has a vast network of media outlets and echo chambers.
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I think to understand the media as it has become, you have to understand how revenue is generated in the digital age. The manipulation that goes on behind the scenes to monetize maximum revenue is not what it appears to be. All of the outlets on both sides from the WSJ to blogs are interconnected.
Counting eyeballs watching ABC, Facebook news feed, Fox or CNN does not tell the story either. It is far more complex and somewhat evil at times because of how technological progress can be maladapted.
The game is to get you to adapt to them for revenue and power. The tradeoff is not worth it.
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I don’t disagree. But I just think it’s a tired trope to imply that the media is dominated by the left. I actually think the right has a much bigger advantage. The left tends to be mainstream milk-toast stuff that lefties passively pay attention to. I’m not saying it’s not influential, but it’s not followed like it is on the right.
On the right you have a huge network of self-reinforcing talking points and echo chambers that many conservatives listen to, read, watch, etc. with much more regularity because it tends to be much more personality driven with talk shows, blogs, podcasts, etc. Meanwhile on the left, things like Air America (remember that) and political personalities just don’t get any traction. I guess Rachel Maddow would be the closest thing on the left, but I barely hear about her anymore (never watched much of her anyway). Jon Stewart was big for a while, but that was ages ago. Whereas on the right I could probably name 15 personalities off the top of my head.
The right has mastered the guerilla marketing side of the media, but also have major outlets like Fox and the WSJ. Some that is by necessity since the left traditionally had a leg up on the mainstream outlets. But those outlets are 20th century things that are more and more outdated.
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NBC’s Nightly News averages around 8.5 million viewers each night. ABC’s World News Tonights is right behind them at around 8.3 million. Norah O’Donnell at CBS is way behind at 5.5 million viewers. All shows are way left of center, though not as far left as MSNBC and CNN. There isn’t a non-cable network that leans right or is even impartial.
Tucker Carlson Tonight, Fox’s highest rated show, averages 3.5 million viewers, with The Five around the same. Drop offs for everyone else. So not even including MSNBC and CNN’s lackluster viewership, over 6 times get there “news” from left leaning sources every night. Not that I call Carlson’s show news, Brett Baier’s Special Report is pretty fair and balanced news, and draws about 2.8 million, still only half of O’Donnell’s lowest on air network news.
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[quote quote=5629] On the right you have a huge network of self-reinforcing talking points and echo chambers that many conservatives listen to, read, watch, etc. with much more regularity because it tends to be much more personality driven with talk shows, blogs, podcasts, etc. [/quote]
I see your allegation and raise an actual media echo chamber, with evidence. https://www.nytimes.com/2016/05/08/magazine/the-aspiring-novelist-who-became-obamas-foreign-policy-guru.html
As Malley and representatives of the State Department, including Wendy Sherman and Secretary of State John Kerry, engaged in formal negotiations with the Iranians, to ratify details of a framework that had already been agreed upon, Rhodes’s war room did its work on Capitol Hill and with reporters. In the spring of last year, legions of arms-control experts began popping up at think tanks and on social media, and then became key sources for hundreds of often-clueless reporters. “We created an echo chamber,” he admitted, when I asked him to explain the onslaught of freshly minted experts cheerleading for the deal. “They were saying things that validated what we had given them to say.”
This is still going on to a ridiculous extent. Ron Klain whined to the press, and this was the result:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2021/12/03/biden-media-coverage-worse-trump-favorable/
What about all the “inflation is good, actually” pieces that came out around Thanksgiving? Like NBC suggesting that Americans not serve turkey to cut costs… on the “Today” show?
What about more recently? https://twitter.com/latimes/status/1471258774136664067
Aside from priorities, is this even true? Is there any good reason to believe that inflation hits low-income households especially hard? 1/ https://t.co/72hxWaL5zW
— Paul Krugman (@paulkrugman) December 11, 2021
https://edition.cnn.com/2021/12/01/economy/inflation-good-bad-winners-losers/index.html
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