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July 27, 2024 at 12:27 pm #8705
Mick1ParticipantThis survey says Americans are actually backtracking. While the respondents said that both Trump and Harris are equally qualified for the job, with 49 percent saying they are, voters are hesitant about the idea of a female president — 54 percent of the country says they are ready for a woman president and 30 percent said they aren’t.
That number is down from 2015, when an Economist/YouGov poll found 63 percent of voters were ready for a woman president. That survey was taken in May of that year, just a month after Hillary Clinton declared her candidacy for president, and a month before she became the first woman to secure a major party’s presidential nomination.
Number of Americans who say US ready for female president dipping: Survey (msn.com)
Not surprisingly, Harris is not following HRC’s emphasis-on-female candidacy:
https://www.newsweek.com/kamala-harris-ignores-hillary-clinton-playbook-1930639
Frankly…I think HRC would have won if she hadn’t distanced herself from her husband so much. Bill was a wildly popular president, she wasn’t popular. He was great with people, she wasn’t. She should have trotted him out everywhere she went and used his name in every third sentence rather than pretend he was a piece of furniture.
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July 28, 2024 at 11:32 pm #8720
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ParticipantI wonder if the poll reflects the feelings about a woman president vs this woman as president. IMO, the poll reflects the latter rather than the former.
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July 29, 2024 at 4:57 pm #8724
cardcrimsonParticipantHillary and Harris are both awful candidates. I’m ready, I voted for Haley in the primary. . . .
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July 30, 2024 at 12:06 pm #8725
Mick1ParticipantI’m like Dennis Miller, I voted “not-Hillary” in 2016. That said, if Hillary had embraced her husband, a very popular President, rather than run from him, she would have been a two-term President. Personally, I think she was miscast. She was a small-town lawyer, a Yalie, and while her extremely popular husband did extremely popluar things, he gave her one job — fix health care. And she mucked it up like crazy. Loooooove how she didn’t involve doctors or patients. Such a wonky way to approach it.
And she wasn’t a natural politician. Like I’d said before, when my youngest was in college, he had a WashDC internship with Tony Podesta’s ex-wife, who ran a PR/Lobbying firm. She held a fundraiser for Hillary, 20 people attended, raised $500k. When Hillary gave her remarks, she addressed the back of the room, like she was in an amphitheater. Bill C. had mastered the art of looking everyone in the eye. Wasn’t surprised when she wasn’t a hit in flyover country, especially given her propensity for malapropisms. “Deplorables” became a t-shirt and a slogan. My two favorites were (a) when asked if she regretted not spending more time at home with Chelsea, she replied “Well I guess I could have stayed home and baked cookies or something.” So…not a fan of stay at home moms; and (b) when asked about the burden her health care plan would place on small businesses, she said “Look, I can’t be responsible for every underfunded business in America.” So you hate small businesses and you hate stay at home moms. Such a tin ear.
Kamala…we’ll see. Like Hillary, her President gave her one job. While both mucked it up, at least Hillary tried to fix health care. Kamala didn’t even go to the border. Both cackle, both have the support of the media. Both lost/are behind in the swing states.
How can Kamala avoid HRC’s fate?
- Hillary…like Trump…selected a sub-optimal VP. Kamala looks like she’ll pick a good one, and she’ll benefit from Trump’s overconfident selection of Vance. Trump should have picked Nikki, who, unlike Kamala, actually is accomplished. She’d be a great counterweight. Might still happen if JDV “resigns”.
- Kamala needs to run hard on DEI. It has a greater impact now than it did eight years ago, especially running against two white hetero guys.
- They’ll have to lie a lot more and a lot better than HRC did the first time out with respect to all the areas the Dems are weak; e.g., the economy, inflation, immigration, the deficit, crime and unrest (Kamala’s between a rock and a hard place here).
- They’ll have to bait Trump and Vance into reactive mistakes (doesn’t seem too hard).
- Avoid the negatives that plagued HRC (e-mails, dead associates, one-note speeches, transparent ploys e.g. phony Russia scams).
- Encourage RFK to stay in the race and encourage Jill Stein and Cornel West to drop out.
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July 30, 2024 at 5:43 pm #8727
LegendKeymasterI’m ready. There are plenty of women who have been in the conversation that I would have voted for. Condi is one. Haley is one.
It would be a stunning rise and fall for Vance if he were to “resign” because of the badgering over a few stupid comments 3+ years ago. I’m actually stunned more by the media’s ability to turn “cat ladies” into an everywoman offense vs. just a cat woman offense. Trump was never going to win the cat ladies.
That said, I think Trump screwed up by not picking Haley as VP nom. In the hardcore Trumper circles Haley is viewed as disloyal and in the pockets of the neocons. I think that’s way too politically naive.
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July 31, 2024 at 9:46 am #8729
Mick1ParticipantCompletely agree. If he sticks with Vance, Harris will win. Period. She may win anyway, which is odd given her complicity in the major fails of Biden’s reign.
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August 2, 2024 at 11:11 am #8736
LegendKeymasterJust got a D fundraising email from Gavin Newsome with the subject line “Trump was not prepared for this.”
It’s a funny reflection. I don’t think anybody really thought Kamala was a viable candidate even just 3 weeks ago. Nobody was prepared for this, Democrats.
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August 2, 2024 at 1:38 pm #8737
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