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July 7, 2023 at 11:44 am #7429
Mick1ParticipantKavanaugh and Roberts have the highest percentage of votes in the majority. The lowest? Justice Thomas.
John Roberts and Brett Kavanaugh Are Now the Supreme Court’s Swing Votes – WSJ
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July 7, 2023 at 1:56 pm #7430
LegendKeymasterI like this court. Good focus on the actual constitution and a couple of crazy lefties who allow us to see the bullets we dodged by electing Trump.
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July 7, 2023 at 4:49 pm #7431
Beeg_Dawg
Participant[quote quote=7430]I like this court. Good focus on the actual constitution and a couple of crazy lefties who allow us to see the bullets we dodged by electing Trump.[/quote]
Copy that.
Skim read Ketanji Brown Jackson’s dissent. Interesting that she never addresses the constitutionality in using race as a factor for college admission. She cites repeatedly transgressions against blacks over the last 250 years. Mentions disparities in wealth between college educated whites and blacks who did not attend college. She conveniently overlooked similar disparities between whites who attended college and those who did not.
She hit all the talking points about inequality, but missed completely that 50 years of affirmative action has not eliminated racism or provided more and better opportunities for minorities.
Bottom line, she is ok with ignoring the Constitution to correct racial inequities even though affirmative action has done little or nothing to right those perceived wrongs.
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July 7, 2023 at 5:50 pm #7434
rjnwmillParticipant”She hit all the talking points about inequality, but missed completely that 50 years of affirmative action has not eliminated racism or provided more and better opportunities for minorities.”
I beg to differ. Over 60 years there has been an enormous move towards a color blind society. I agree with you in that affirmative action has contributed little to that movement. Unfortunately the stoking of racist narratives by political hacks is counterproductive as hell.
And how do I know, I trust my eyes. When I go out to dinner, I see a well integrated group of diners. Well dressed, excusing the foolishness of modern “style”. Not so much 50 years ago.
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July 7, 2023 at 5:14 pm #7432
LegendKeymasterOld legal aphorism: “If you have the facts on your side, pound the facts; if you have the law on your side, pound the law; if you have neither the facts nor the law, pound the table.”
KBJ was just following the rules.
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July 10, 2023 at 12:35 pm #7440
Mick1ParticipantOver 60 years there has been an enormous move towards a color blind society. I agree with you in that affirmative action has contributed little to that movement. Unfortunately the stoking of racist narratives by political hacks is counterproductive as hell. And how do I know, I trust my eyes. When I go out to dinner, I see a well-integrated group of diners. Well dressed, excusing the foolishness of modern “style”. Not so much 50 years ago.
I’m sixty years old, and I well remember speaking with members of my great-grandparents’ generation who were virulently racist in a very casual way. Their children — my grandparents — were more accepting, yet still “separate”. For example, my great grandfather thought he was progressive by hiring a Jewish secretary, but he wouldn’t consider hiring a racial minority in an administrative position. His son (my grandfather and Stanford grad) had a Black secretary, and though Granddad spoke positively about her and treated her with respect, he would still consider her “separate” and would be unlikely to invite her over for dinner or to his country club (he’d be considered to be a Rockefeller Republican, who donated extensively to charities).
The next generation — my parents — had friends of different ethnicities. My dad’s three best friends are a former white cop, a Japanese-American and an Indian-American. My mom lived in Oakland for quite a while.
My generation is integrated in what I see as a proactive way — it still takes a bit of effort. Not so much for me — if you live in downtown Detroit, almost all of your friends, neighbors and acquaintances are Black — but people of my generation are that way. We socialize well and easily with minority groups, but I don’t think it’s as instinctive as it could be. I was invited to join the Freemasons, which in Detroit, is largely a Black social and charitable group.
My sons’ social groups are completed integrated to the point that they don’t think, talk or act about it. Both my sons speak at least some Mandarin…my youngest works at a company with primarily Chinese and French engineers in his group (he speaks a little French, Arabic and Russian…just enough to get by).
In other words…the progression of integrating our society has been both substantial and inexorable, at least from my perspective, and individual perspectives have changed on a generational basis…and will continue to do so, as long as race baiters don’t screw it up.
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July 10, 2023 at 2:20 pm #7443
rjnwmillParticipantThanks Mick. And to your point of “screwing things up”…I give you Sacramento.
This is unconstitutional, unquestionably. Yet they use this stuff to divide the electorate hoping for 50.1% Thanks for nothing.
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July 10, 2023 at 3:59 pm #7444
Cornfed
ParticipantAnd KJB really doesn’t understand math. 😉
https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2023/07/a-jackson-clarification.php
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July 11, 2023 at 12:27 pm #7446
Mick1ParticipantAnd KJB really doesn’t understand math. 😉 https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2023/07/a-jackson-clarification.php
Man, no kidding. Although, I would extend the lack-of-understanding-of-math to a broad cross-section of attorneys. I had the advantage of a degree in finance, and nearly two decades in the accounting profession, but watching attorneys do math — especially litigators — can be painful.
The article quoted a brief by Norton Rose Fulbright — a very prominent firm, #14 on the AmLaw 100 with over $2.1 billion in revenue.
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July 11, 2023 at 11:40 pm #7449
rogpodge
ParticipantI would worry less about the lawyers who can’t do math, and more about the doctors at the American Medical Association who fed that statistic to the lawyers, then the law clerks, and ultimately to Justice Jackson. The fact that doctors can no longer do math, and are willing to peddle garbage statistics as the basis for policy should be the most concerning part of this entire affair.
It’s incredible how much of medicine is based on a single study with a small sample size.
https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamaotolaryngology/article-abstract/2796299
(Yeah, I know, it’s hypocritical to trash the AMA, then cite the JAMA).
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