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June 11, 2025 at 10:41 am #10224
MickParticipant…a curfew, in the wake of the largely peaceful 😐 protests.
Downtown L.A. curfew goes into effect after California Gov. Gavin Newsom addresses ICE protests
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June 15, 2025 at 3:25 am #10237
BeyondThunderdome
ParticipantOn a related note, the Trump administration has been looking for an excuse to suspend habeas corpus. Their investigation started long before anything going on in Los Angeles.
Of course it’s entirely unjustified and something only Congress can do. But Trump won’t let that get in the way.
And it would be nice if the people in charge of detaining people actually had a clue what it is:
https://youtube.com/shorts/nVchUqnJ1oM?si=aKJGlfq0xmF6k-oi
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June 16, 2025 at 2:08 pm #10239
MickParticipantYes, U. S. presidents have suspended habeas corpus on three occasions:
- President Lincoln, Civil War
- President Grant, Reconstruction.
- President Bush, Global War on Terror.
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June 16, 2025 at 10:12 pm #10240
BeyondThunderdome
ParticipantNot exactly. President Bush did not formally suspend habeas corpus. That power lies with Congress under Article I, Section 9 of the Constitution. His administration implemented policies that effectively denied habeas rights to certain individuals (particularly foreign nationals detained in the context of the War on Terror).
Bush’s policies were challenged in court, so Congress passed a couple laws that attempted to limit or eliminate the ability of non-citizen detainees to file habeas corpus petitions, by processing them through military tribunals at Guantanamo with limited appeals.
But in 2008 the Supreme Court ruled that detainees at Guantanamo do have the constitutional right to file habeas corpus petitions in U.S. federal courts. The Court held that the relevant provisions of the laws passed by congress were unconstitutional since the conditions required for suspension hadn’t been met.
Lincoln did unilaterally suspend habeas corpus, but the chief justice at the time ruled it was unconstitutional. Congress later passed a retroactive law clarifying that it was ok for the duration of the Civil War. And the law eventually expired and is not in effect.
The conditions for suspending habeas corpus to this day remain as written in the Constitution, and any modern suspension would require **explicit** congressional action under that framework.
Grant did suspend habeas corpus. But unlike Lincoln’s unilateral suspension in 1861, Grant’s actions were explicitly authorized by Congress, using the powers granted under the Enforcement Acts during Reconstruction.
To be clear, suspension requires approval by Congress. It is written into the constitution and has been consistently upheld by the courts. But I suspect the Trump regime won’t let that ‘technicality’ or the rule of law get in their way. They will do it and then dare the Supreme Court to make them stop.
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June 17, 2025 at 3:30 pm #10248
rogpodge
ParticipantNow it’s just an excuse to prevent all law enforcement from doing their jobs. We’ve seen it in MN, CO, and Los Angeles.
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June 19, 2025 at 1:37 am #10254
BeyondThunderdome
Participanttesting. Edit: oh great. Now my comments are showing up … after my real one disappeared into the ether twice. I’m not sure I can be bothered to write it a third time right now.
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June 29, 2025 at 7:06 pm #10304
MickParticipantBondi fires three prosecutors involved with the January 6 prosecution.
Pam Bondi Axes Jan. 6 Prosecutors in ‘Horrifying’ Purge – DNyuz
On the one hand, I don’t like politically targeted grief, either on the right or left. On the other hand, I’ve seen so many people fired for specious reason in private, it seems to me that it would be unfair for government employees to have complete employment security. Shouldn’t they be able to enjoy the capricious whim of getting fired by some a-hole? Those of us in private certainly do.
BTW, I don’t like the word “horrifying” unless you apply it equally across the political spectrum.
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January 9, 2026 at 3:45 pm #10250
BeyondThunderdome
Participantrogpodge, what do you expect when ICE agents are acting like the Gestapo and running around without any identification. It opens up
Huger man accused of posing as ICE officer in viral video excused from court Friday
Man arrested in attempted rape after allegedly posing as ICE agent in Brooklyn
Man accused of posing as ICE agent, sexually assaulting woman at motel: report

Have you seen the shit they are doing recently? It’s frightening. Sorry if I can’t get beyond the idea that Americans are now supposed to accept that this is a valid form of law enforcement, and just assume it’s fine when random dudes with face coverings, no ID, no badge, no vests, no warrant, and no uniform grab people off the street and force them into unmarked vehicles. It just looks like a bunch of random dudes kidnapping people.
By the way, I’m still wondering what you think of the deportation to the El Salvador gulag with no due process of people like this guy? Do you believe this gay hairdresser is really some gangbanger?
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January 9, 2026 at 3:45 pm #10251
BeyondThunderdome
Participantrogpodge, not surprising since ICE agents are running around without identifying themselves.
Huger man accused of posing as ICE officer in viral video excused from court Friday
Man arrested in attempted rape after allegedly posing as ICE agent in Brooklyn
Man accused of posing as ICE agent, sexually assaulting woman at motel: report
They are acting like the Gestapo. Are people in America supposed to accept that this is a valid form of law enforcement and just assume it’s fine when random dudes with face coverings, no ID, no badge, no uniform, no vests, and no warrant grab people off the streets and force people into unmarked vehicles?

It might be a bit less frightening if the Trump regime had demonstrated some level of adherence to the rule of law. But as you know, they’ve been grabbing people and deporting them to gulags with no due process.
Speaking of which, is there any justification for sending the gay makeup artist to CECOT without a trial?
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