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June 12, 2023 at 12:56 pm #7333
Mick1ParticipantSan Francisco’s Decline is a Warning to Other American Cities (newsweek.com)
Hotel Owners Start to Write Off San Francisco as Business Nosedives – WSJ
Nordstrom Is Closing San Francisco Stores as Cities’ Retail Pain Grows – WSJ
Net $7 billion in income loss as wealthy residents flee SF. A record 35 million square feet of commercial real estate available. Second fastest decline in residential real estate prices in America. Hotels not paying on outstanding debt (because of fewer visitors), including Huntington, Yotel, Club Quarters, Hilton Union Square and Parc 55. Fentanyl capital of the USA. Homeless crisis, public sanitation crisis. Increase in crime, in fact, one of the highest property crime rates in America. Major retailers and major employers leaving. Target, T-Mobile, Walgreens, Nike, Nordstroms, The Gap, Crate & Barrell, Abercrombie & Fitch, H&M, probably Whole Foods are shuttering stores or reducing hours. 90 retailers closed in Union Square since 2019. $780 million tax revenue shortfall. Public transit usage only at 47% of pre-pandemic levels. 29% fewer downtown weekend visitors compared with pre-pandemic. Liberals still want to defund the police. And a dumbass Democrat California Assemblyman thinks the solution is to transform empty office buildings into housing.
Other American cities have seen a post-pandemic rebirth. Why not San Francisco? Why is SF headed in the opposite direction?
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June 12, 2023 at 1:15 pm #7334
LegendKeymasterThings appear to be going according to plan if you ask me. Equality of squalor for all.
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June 12, 2023 at 3:43 pm #7337
rogpodge
ParticipantThe hotel REITs turning those hotels over to lenders halfway through the mortgage terms are the most shocking to me. I assume after the tax consequences, it was still financially advantageous to abandon the properties. Parc 55 and Club Quarters are really nice hotels. Park Hotels and Resorts stock went up 2% after the announcement (but is down on interest rate concerns).
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June 12, 2023 at 9:32 pm #7339
rjnwmillParticipantI believe the hotels have a five year balloon that is due in the fall. I suspect inflation/Fed response/higher rates/reduced occupancy make the operation uneconomic? The city’s criminal justice reform is degrading the retail environment.
This is a canary not an outlier. No wonder Newsom is looking to fail upwards.
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June 13, 2023 at 10:45 am #7340
Mick1ParticipantThe world of politics. Newsom blames REPUBLICANS for homelessness, despite the Dems being in control in CA for…well, ever. Homelessness has risen 13% during his term as governor.
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June 13, 2023 at 10:46 am #7341
Mick1ParticipantI believe the hotels have a five year balloon that is due in the fall. I suspect inflation/Fed response/higher rates/reduced occupancy make the operation uneconomic? The city’s criminal justice reform is degrading the retail environment. This is a canary not an outlier. No wonder Newsom is looking to fail upwards.
Retail revenue down by 1/3rd at Westfield.
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June 13, 2023 at 4:52 pm #7347
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June 14, 2023 at 6:09 pm #7352
Mick1ParticipantCinemark just announced that they are closing down, too…
San Francisco loses another large downtown business as city’s troubles mount (msn.com)
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April 12, 2024 at 2:40 pm #8298
Mick1ParticipantHere’s the capper: San Francisco won’t allow grocery stores to close.
San Francisco Is Going To Make It Illegal For Stores to Close (msn.com)
My father operated a grocery store from 1979 until the 1990s in Santa Cruz. It is a brutally difficult, margin-challenged business. Unless it’s Whole
PaycheckFoods, it doesn’t make much, if any money. When you add up the pilferage and shoplifting, spoilage, shifting customer base (people aging out, moving out of the area, etc.), it becomes very difficult to close the doors.Food for thought: what if stores like CVS, Target and even fast foods are classified as “providing groceries?” They all do, to some extent. Are they subject to that law?
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