6.2% Projected 2022 SS Increase

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    • #5193
      AvatarNeodymium60
      Participant

      COLA rates have not been finalized but that is a whopping increase on top of everything else.

      Anyone have any thoughts on what effect all of these costs will have  on the bond market?  Payroll tax?  Profits?  I’d like to be ahead of this freight train.

      https://www.forbes.com/advisor/personal-finance/social-security-cola/#:~:text=The%20Social%20Security%20COLA%20for,to%20the%20Senior%20Citizens%20League.

    • #5194
      LegendLegend
      Keymaster

      Oh, trust me. You ARE in front of the freight train.

      Our economy has essentially become state run. The fed can dictate direction now that everybody is either drowning in debt or worried about their cash stash being devalued drastically.

      My point of view is about the only way to position is to own cash producing assets that can adjust to inflationary pressure (eg equities or reits).

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    • #5195
      MickMick
      Participant

      I think that at some point we’re in for a bout of inflation  that will dwarf any inflation rate we’ve experienced to date.  I think we’re looking at uncharted territory.  I’d get out of bonds, I’m not wild about stocks.  I’d consider commodities, probably metals, maybe certain kinds of collectibles.

    • #5198
      AvatarNeodymium60
      Participant

      OK.  I’m thinking capital preservation and having been through some downdrafts in the past, what’s coming is “Mick” worse.  I do feel like I am in front of an oncoming train.  I’m not wild about equities either and have been looking to dump some but I don’t think there are many alternative choices.  Spend now?

      Three things.

      1.   Japan’s liberal Suga is stepping down and they were the biggest purchaser     of our bonds.
      2.  China has gotten away from US Bonds.
      3.  Powell is keeping the rates artificially low.

      Something is going to give.

       

    • #5204
      AvatarCornfed
      Participant

      Does anybody know much about inflation-indexed treasuries?

    • #5212
      LegendLegend
      Keymaster

      [quote quote=5204]Does anybody know much about inflation-indexed treasuries?[/quote]

      last time I checked they were yielding negative real, which kinda defeats the purpose.

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    • #5213
      rjnwmillrjnwmill
      Participant

      I’m not as certain as some about inflation. If Bernie taxes the hell out of the economic sectors with free cash flow we might be seeing less inflation than some fear.

      Instead a fundamental shift in the share of “G” in the old equation, GDP=C+G+I+(X-M).

      So what does an economy look like with less “I”, lower yields on “I” and more transfer payments to drive increasing “C”?

      Growth is stifled. The growth premium in stock valuations is reduced. Over time our GDP stagnates and we become more uncompetitive on the margin.

      I believe government guided investment decisions produce lower yields than private sector driven investments. The yield on “I” will decline over time. This too will prove to be a negative for GDP growth. I mean really, who would retain the firm of Ocassio, Omar, Talib & Sanders to manage their portfolio. Look at the performance of the public school system.

      From an investment standpoint perhaps you consider rebalancing your portfolio across the global market?  Defying a fundamental Buffet axiom, has the time come to disinvest in/shift away from the US?

      Here's a toast with one last pour, may it last forever and a minute more;
      Good fortune seems to you have sung, to live and love way past long

    • #5219
      AvatarNeodymium60
      Participant

      Do imports subtract from GDP?   It would seem to be a domestic job killer just as are the people we are letting across our borders.

      Not much makes sense to me.  It’s either way over my head or something deeper in the works.

      Do you think a lot of our economic policies are now driven by AI algos?

      • This reply was modified 4 years, 8 months ago by AvatarNeodymium60.
    • #5226
      MickMick
      Participant

      Do imports subtract from GDP? It would seem to be a domestic job killer just as are the people we are letting across our borders. Not much makes sense to me. It’s either way over my head or something deeper in the works. Do you think a lot of our economic policies are now driven by AI algos?

      My econ profs used to tell me that our accumulated federal deficit didn’t matter, since we largely owed it to ourselves. They also said that what really mattered was the trade deficit, since it meant that we were exporting both wealth and jobs.

      Maybe true back in 1981, but not as true now.  Foreigners own a little more than $7 trillion of our debt now, which means we send out $140 – $150 billion of our treasure each year.  The trade deficit passed $600 billion a few years ago.  Add in transfer payments from foreign nationals to their home countries (about $65 billion), and what our military spends in foreign countries and we’re getting pretty close to sending $1 trillion annually outside of the United States.

      We’re about $21 trillion in GDP, so we’re all sending about 5% of everything overseas right now.

      Click to access RS22331.pdf

      https://www.macrotrends.net/countries/USA/united-states/trade-balance-deficit

      https://www.statista.com/statistics/188105/annual-gdp-of-the-united-states-since-1990/

      • This reply was modified 4 years, 8 months ago by MickMick.
    • #5229
      rjnwmillrjnwmill
      Participant

      [quote quote=5219]Do you think a lot of our economic policies are now driven by AI algos?[/quote]

      I wish. I think our economic policies are driven by ideological zealots. They are not focused on the performance of our economy in a competitive environment. Consider Yellen’s effort to raise tax rates globally. Like the Obama Iran deal, our tax policy would be outsourced to global bureaucrats. Who’s left to represent the American population, our standard of living or our personal freedoms?

      The Animal Farm style pigs in DC populate both sides of the aisle and they are the “Interagency”, a term and class of people I abhor. They minimize the power to change of our elected government.

      So, to finally get to the point, I don’t think we’re on auto pilot and I’m not at all sure it would be worse if we were.

      Here's a toast with one last pour, may it last forever and a minute more;
      Good fortune seems to you have sung, to live and love way past long

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