Lockdowns and Shelter in Place Orders Ineffective, says Hopkins study

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    • #5749

      A study by researchers at Johns Hopkins showed that lockdowns and SIP failed to significantly lower death rates, but did enormous social and economic damage.

      Death rates were only reduced by 0.2% for lockdowns and 2.9% for SIP. Wow.

      Follow the science. Sheesh.



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    • #5751

      I haven’t read the science, but I think the stock response right now is that it’s still the vaccine reluctant citizens.

      Sic transit gloria mundi (so shut up and get back to work)

    • #5756

      I want to believe this as much as anybody, but we should be cautious about this study.

      There IS some more academically rigorous evidence that lockdowns didn’t work.


      Check the excess mortality comparisons between the US and Sweden.  They’ve done much better without lockdowns in terms of total excess deaths.  Granted, they have a healthier population, but that’s adjusted for in the excess expected deaths calculation.

    • #5757

      WSJ article citing multiple WHO studies and September, 2019 report from Johns Hopkins — this time from the Johns Hopkins Center for Health Security, citing work from real doctors, claims that quarantining not only didn’t work, but that the WHO and JH both recommended against it prior to the pandemic.


      “What caused the scientific community to abandon its aversion to lockdowns? The empirical evidence didn’t change. Rather, the lockdown strategy originated from the same sources the WHO had heavily deprecated in its 2019 report: speculative and untested epidemiological models.”

      “During an emergency, it should be expected that implementation of some NPIs,
      such as travel restrictions and quarantine, might be pursued for social or political
      purposes by political leaders, rather than pursued because of public health
      evidence. WHO should rapidly and clearly articulate its opposition to inappropriate NPIs, especially when they threaten public health response activities or pose increased risks to the health of the public.”

      Click to access 190918-GMPBreport-respiratorypathogen.pdf

      Click to access 9789241516839-eng.pdf

      Full disclosure, the 2006 WHO study hypothesized that quarantines would work in isolated rural areas.


      Medical historian John Barry’s MIT paper said that quarantines clearly didn’t work in 2009:



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