No love lost between the Biden and Obama camps

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      Mick1Mick1
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      I knew there was tension and friction, and I definitely recall Obama’s private comment “Never underestimate Joe Biden’s ability to fuck things up” but this is an interesting take on Biden’s “little brother” simultaneous admiration and rejection of his relationship with Obama.

      https://www.axios.com/2024/03/18/biden-obama-rivalry-presidency

      Audaces fortuna iuvat

    • #8242
      LegendLegend
      Keymaster

      History shows that vice presidents play a bit role. They range from useful displays of competence (think Dick Cheney) to mere insurance policies (Kamala) to actively dismissed but politically necessary (Truman hardly ever met with Roosevelt).

      I think Joe Biden is a relatively small man who views his VP position with Obama as somehow a favor he did Barack.  These reports on his needs to compare to his former commander in chief are instructive:  the man knows that Barack was right in his assessment.

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    • #8245
      johnnyo53johnnyo53
      Participant

      They are both aholes. One of them is senile.

      “I remember that one fateful day when Coach took me aside. I knew what was coming. "You don't have to tell me," I said. "I'm off the team, aren't I?" "Well," said Coach, "you never were really ON the team. You made that uniform you're wearing out of rags and towels, and your helmet is a toy space helmet. You show up at practice and then either steal the ball and make us chase you to get it back, or you try to tackle people at inappropriate times." It was all true what he was saying. And yet, I

    • #8246
      LegendLegend
      Keymaster

      One thing is for sure, Doc:  They both got more NIL money than you or I ever did.

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