Russian Drone Hits Park Full of Families. More Kids killed and wounded.

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    • #11438
      BeyondThunderdomeBeyondThunderdome
      Participant

      Trump today: “Russia, frankly, has been fine on Ukraine. They haven’t been doing much.”

       

      Russia today (and similarly every day): Russian Drone Hits Park Full of Families in Kharkiv Region, Killing Infant and Two Women

      A Russian drone struck the central park in Nova Vodolaha, Kharkiv region, killing two women and an infant and injuring at least 14 people, Ivan Vyhivskyi, Minister of Internal Affairs of Ukraine reported on October 19.

      The attack hit the park while many civilians were there, including families with children, Vyhivskyi wrote.

      An infant in a stroller was among those killed. At least seven children were among the wounded.

       

      When you understand "the deep state" simply refers to the rule of law, it makes much more sense.

    • #11442
      LegendLegend
      Keymaster

      This is on Trump?

      A tragedy to be sure. In a war zone.

      If Trump helps bring the war to an end, will he get credit?  My sense is more people think Trump started the Russia Ukraine war than think he can help stop it. That’s striking.

      short of regime change in Russia, which I don’t think is our policy, what goal should the U.S. have in working to stop the fight? Return to status quo ante was my view for a long time but it doesn’t look workable. Putin probably keeps territory.

      what say you, never trumper?

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    • #11444
      BeyondThunderdomeBeyondThunderdome
      Participant

      I didn’t say Trump did this. But he’s not making any effort to end this war. He’s too busy making deals with Putin. Why do you think he sent business buddies and family members over to Russia, rather than diplomats? Why do you think he got rid of his envoy, General Keith Kellogg, who was actually in favor of helping Ukraine win and had far more relevant experience than Half-witkoff (a guy who cherishes his meetings with Putin) and Trumps son-in-law?

      Putin is an evil Fuck. Why the fuck are Trump’s cronies and family doing business deals with them? Why aren’t we arming Ukraine? Why are we rolling out the red carpet for this asshole who is telling Iran how to bomb us and helping Iran develop supersonic missiles to hit us and our allies?

      Do you think there will be “peace for our time” like Neville Chamberlain declared after doing a deal with Hitler? I joked about that a couple years ago. And here we are — actually doing deals with Russia. I guess the argument that somehow being friends with them will appease them? And meanwhile Trump’s friends and family can get rich on a sweet Lukoil deal?

      What’s my solution? Arming Ukraine. They’re beating Russia on the font line with one arm tied behind their back. In the last couple months they’ve taken more territory back then Russia has gained. And Russia has been losing upwards of 50,000 casualties a month (almost as many as we lost in the entire Vietnam war in one month). This is despite the fact that Trump withdrew material support from Ukraine in March 2025.

      If we actually gave a fuck about Ukraine we would be arming them and pressuring Russsia. But instead Trump is making friends with Putin; he and Musk are removing Starlink from Ukraine; they’re removing Star Shield; Trump is rolling out the red carpet for Putin, literally; he’s doing business deals with Putin; he’s removing all sanctions; and the cherry on top — he’s blaming Ukraine for being invaded.

      Where the fuck is your outrage at this weak shit?

      Ukraine is doing quite well without our assistance. Imagine how well they would do if we actually helped them.

      I remember the criticism of Biden was that he was too weak and too slow providing aid. And didn’t provide enough aid. And now Trump is 10 times worse, but somehow there’s not fucking peep from anyone here about that.

      Amazing.

      One of the worst things is: they crippled Starlink INSIDE Ukraine. You want to make an argument that Starlink shouldn’t be used inside Russia for military purposes? That’s something debatable. But they crippled it INSIDE Ukraine. What the fuck?

      Do you not see that Trump is pro Russian? He can barely contain himself. The only reason he’s put up with Ukraine even a tiny bit is because Congress had mandated aid and most Americans are on Ukraine’s side. Trump isn’t. I do hope you aren’t under any other impression by this point.

      When you understand "the deep state" simply refers to the rule of law, it makes much more sense.

    • #11445
      BeyondThunderdomeBeyondThunderdome
      Participant

      Actually, Legend, I stand partially corrected. I said above, “I didn’t say Trump did this.” And I didn’t. But it turns out that, yes, Trump and his pro Russian clan is not blameless.

      While these kids are getting murdered, Hegseth is sitting on an authorization to allow the transfer of Patriot missiles through the PURL program that other countries already purchased from the United States.

      https://www.yahoo.com/news/politics/articles/patriot-delays-add-growing-rift-001608059.html

      When you understand "the deep state" simply refers to the rule of law, it makes much more sense.

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