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    • #1826
      cardcrimsoncardcrimson
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    • #1827
      Rocky17Rocky17
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      This has happened before and will happen more frequently as states like New York cave to left wing legislators and progressive ideas of jurisprudence.

    • #1830
      rjnwmillrjnwmill
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      Should the perpetrator’s attorneys have personal exposure to civil/criminal action? The judge?

      These decisions and the consequences there from are inexcusable. And it’s not unforeseen. Recidivism rates have been studied for years and are well understood. Why do we excuse this conduct by lawyers and judges?

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    • #1837
      Avatarlex24
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      What conduct are you referring to vis a vis the defense lawyers?  Doing their job?  A horrific tragedy.  But they are not legally complicit. They will have to live with what happened.  Every criminal defense lawyers second worse nightmare. (The first is that the perp goes after them, or their families).

      As for the Judge, a horrific ruling.  Were he still on the bench, I could see a recall petition.  But you can’t criminalize Judges decisions.

      The criminal justice system has its flaws.  But it’s still better than any other.  Criminal law (and the Constitutional issues surrounding it) is by far the most interesting facet of law to me intellectually.  My Crim Law prof pushed me hard to go that route.  I didn’t have the guts.

      It’s a damn tough job.

       

       

      • This reply was modified 5 years, 9 months ago by Avatarlex24.
      • #1846
        rjnwmillrjnwmill
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        Lex, “I was just doing my job” or “I was just following orders” as a defense for reprehensible behavior has a history.  It has been rejected where there is direct linkage to great bodily harm to innocents.

        It is hard for me to see how the circumstances here are different.  How is this different than the current initiatives to strip liability protections from law enforcement officers.  How is the victim here different from Mr. Floyd?  Do you see the judge and the defense lawyer in this matter as different from the two newbie officers who failed to intervene to prohibit the Floyd death?  How is a decision not to intervene when a crime is being committed worse than a decision to intervene that facilitates subsequent violent crime?

        Unless the individual was incarcerated unreasonably, the court had already acted in our behalf and determined that society is best served through detention. Now a lawyer and a judge elect to challenge the appropriateness of that decision. They make that choice fully informed as to the record and the recidivism statistics. (And let’s not lose sight of the fact that the recidivism is in part a measure of the quality of the services purchased in our behalf be politicians. The decision makers here, judges and attorneys both, know they are not dealing effectively with core problems.)

        Why should these professional decisions be exempted from accountability?  The consequences are seen to be severe.

        • This reply was modified 5 years, 9 months ago by rjnwmillrjnwmill.

        Here's a toast with one last pour, may it last forever and a minute more;
        Good fortune seems to you have sung, to live and love way past long

      • #1880
        rjnwmillrjnwmill
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        Lex, permit me to introduce you to the judge in this case…

        Here's a toast with one last pour, may it last forever and a minute more;
        Good fortune seems to you have sung, to live and love way past long

    • #1839
      Avatargpn38
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      The pendulum is swinging. At some point people will get tired of lax law enforcement. In the meantime, the rest of us need to use common sense in protecting ourselves and families from criminals

    • #1843
      FratBoySpikeFratBoySpike
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      I subscribe to a YouTube channel called, “Active Self Protection”. I didn’t own a firearm before 2016. Now I advocate CCW and CQC for friends and family.  The pendulum might just be swinging toward frontier justice and vigilantism for a season. Hope I’m wrong, but better to be prepared than caught off guard.

      "Some people never go crazy. What truly horrible lives they must lead." - Charles Bukowski

    • #1848
      LegendLegend
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      [quote quote=1843]I subscribe to a YouTube channel called, “Active Self Protection”. I didn’t own a firearm before 2016. Now I advocate CCW and CQC for friends and family. The pendulum might just be swinging toward frontier justice and vigilantism for a season. Hope I’m wrong, but better to be prepared than caught off guard.[/quote]

      Yep. The first responder is you.

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      Sic transit gloria mundi (so shut up and get back to work)

    • #1856
      FratBoySpikeFratBoySpike
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      I finally leave for Texas permanently in three weeks and couldn’t be more content with that life decision. In a crazy twist of irony, yesterday morning two houses up the street from my daughter and her family had some kind of domestic dispute see 15 police vehicles, 3 ambulances and two helicopters arrive on scene per my son-in-laws count. Now that’s what I call response!

      NBC 5 Dallas-Fort Worth: 5 Hurt, 3 Hospitalized in Richardson Assault: Police.

      5 Hurt, 3 Hospitalized in Richardson Assault: Police

      • This reply was modified 5 years, 9 months ago by FratBoySpikeFratBoySpike.

      "Some people never go crazy. What truly horrible lives they must lead." - Charles Bukowski

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