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Gruden’s scandal begs the question: why would any organization or individual want emails archived for a decade or more in an environment where you don’t know what will be cancel worthy in 5 years?
Gruden’s comments are being held out there as “abhorrent” but probably were just about mainstream (with the exception of the Michelin tire comment, Gruden was an idiot to write it no matter what he “meant”) in the circle of nfl coach types at the time. Like it or not.
While I’m not one to write that kind or stuff, and I’m not surprised at the fallout (I would have asked for his resignation too), I’m thinking a policy of deleting old emails is in order for any organization.
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in other news, keep in mind this investigation is into WFT, not jon gruden. no telling what else is gonna come out.
here's what i'm curious about: what comes up in that file of emails when you search for "robert griffin?"
— bomani (@bomani_jones) October 12, 2021
The NFL got Gruden out with the leaks; mission accomplished.
But the public/fans/media is going to want to know more about these 650,000 emails.
Wasn't this case about the toxic workplace of the Washington Football Club?
This feels like this is just the beginning, not the end.— Andrew Brandt (@AndrewBrandt) October 12, 2021
Someone from the NFL took these e-mails and leaked them. Not sure if there’s a protective order (there should have been). I guess in this day and age, there aren’t going to be any repercussions from taking something produced pursuant to an internal investigation into sexual harassment / misconduct by the WFT and turned against someone who wasn’t working for them at the time (and hasn’t been accused of sexual harassment / misconduct). There are 650,000 e-mails, as the two commenters have said. I wonder who else’s e-mails will get leaked. Anyhow, Jon Gruden should be on the phone to a lawyer.
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Saw where the NFLPA was considering a motion to release the other 650k emails.
My hunch is they will think about that and then decide against it. It would be stupid. Very stupid.
Like it or not, there are still personal thoughts and personal emails that ought to have the benefit of the doubt when it comes to loose talk.
While I have no doubt that Gruden has some negative stuff in his emails, I have to wonder why he was the target. Could it be that it’s because he called Goodell an “anti football pussy?” I think maybe so.
and, no there are no consequences for leaks that fit the dominant narrative.
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Neither Gruden nor the NFL affect me. But the story is amusing. Assume that the email/Twitter crap did not exist. Unless you could read his mind, Gruden would be considered a pretty nice guy. Probably is either way.
If you could read anyone’s mind you probably would not be able to handle the truth. If you want to know someone’s mind listen to what they say and watch what they do. Gruden passes that test. He fails the Twitter/Email test which is trivial idiocy.
I give Gruden a total pass.
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Someone from the NFL took these e-mails and leaked them. Not sure if there’s a protective order (there should have been). I guess in this day and age, there aren’t going to be any repercussions from taking something produced pursuant to an internal investigation into sexual harassment / misconduct by the WFT and turned against someone who wasn’t working for them at the time (and hasn’t been accused of sexual harassment / misconduct). There are 650,000 e-mails, as the two commenters have said. I wonder who else’s e-mails will get leaked. Anyhow, Jon Gruden should be on the phone to a lawyer.
When I hear about these things, I think about Donald Stirling’s girlfriend, who recorded his comments and replayed them which are against California law (Stirling neither knew about nor consented to the recordings).
I don’t believe that his mistress, V. Stiviano (born María Vanessa Perez, a/k/a Monica Gallegos, a/k/a Vanessa Perez, a/k/a Maria Valdez) was ever charged or prosecuted with a crime, despite having recorded his private comments without his permission.
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