Oregon voters now want to re-criminalize hard drugs

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    • #7929
      Mick1Mick1
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      Apparently, decriminalizing hard drugs with no fear of consequence attracted rampant hard drug use, the users tore up the traffic-ticket-equivalents that they were given, and they avoided rehabilitation whenever they could.

      Who knew?

      Oregon Decriminalized Hard Drugs. It Isn’t Working. – WSJ

      Stanford professor Keith Humphreys says “not a crazy thing to try, but I think they misunderstood addiction.” Oh, really?

      Fatal overdoses in Oregon in the 12 months ending in May rose 23% from the same period a eyar earlier. Third highest increase in the nation. Overdose calls to the police have doubled in three years.

      Audaces fortuna iuvat

    • #7930
      LegendLegend
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      It would be funny if it weren’t killing people.

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      Sic transit gloria mundi (so shut up and get back to work)

    • #7931
      AvatarNeodymium60
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      An old MD friend who has an Infectious Disease specialty told me this story.  Had a long term hard drug user patient who he treated many times over the years often with hospitalization.  The latest about 3 months, much of it ICU.   (In his 40’s).  He recovered and before release he had a long talk with the patient about having a new lease on life.  He was clean.  He regained his health.  In a week he was dead of an over dose.  I asked him if he had any idea of the cost of his treatments over the years.  Figured it was well over a million.

      I could get into Fentanyl babies here too but lets just say its worse.  As to Oregon, they will get what they deserve.

    • #7932
      LegendLegend
      Keymaster

      For every tragedy, there is a person taking profits.

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      Sic transit gloria mundi (so shut up and get back to work)

    • #7934
      AvatarBeeg_Dawg
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      Recent experience has ICU cost at $650/hour.  Figure in and out over 3 months, your friend gave you a pretty good estimate.

      Here is a surprisingly balanced piece from NPR.  https://www.npr.org/2021/06/18/1007022652/oregons-pioneering-drug-decriminalization-experiment-is-now-facing-the-hard-test

      Measure 101 was sold to the voters that it would improve access to treatment.  Access to treatment was not a problem.  Getting people to treatment IS the problem.

      Oregon policy makers develop programs based on the premise drug addicts are just like everyone else, the only difference is a dependency problem.  That might be true, but the numbers don’t lie.  Our current methods of treating addiction are not working.

    • #8091
      Mick1Mick1
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      Democratic lawmakers in Oregon on Tuesday unveiled a sweeping new bill that would undo a key part of the state’s first-in-the-nation drug decriminalization law, a recognition that public opinion has soured on the measure amid rampant public drug use during the fentanyl crisis.

      The bill would:

      1. Recriminalize the possession of small amounts of drugs as a low-level misdemeanor
      2. Enable police to confiscate them and crack down on their use on sidewalks and in parks.
      3. Make it easier to prosecute dealers
      4. Make it easier to access addiction treatment medication
      5. Make it easier to obtain and keep housing without facing discrimination for using that medication.

      Oregon lawmakers backpedal on pioneering drug decriminalization law | AP News

      Hopefully it’s the start of the road back for Oregon residents. Maybe SF could learn a bit here.

      Audaces fortuna iuvat

    • #8092
      AvatarBeeg_Dawg
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      In all fairness, the Oregon legislature is trying to clean up a voter initiative mess. The law was so eff’ed up, a person could openly smoke Fentanyl in a public park but you could get arrested for having an open beer in the same park.

      Incredibly, the measures supporters still maintain we are criminalizing addiction, not solving the problem. Of course, the standard answer to any problem is more money is needed for outreach programs and facilities.

      The insanity of Oregon’s approach is the assumption that addicts will make responsible and reasonable decisions.  Misunderstand addiction? Well, duh.

      California, Oregon and Washington have similar programs for dealing with addiction and homelessness, spending billions with little to nothing to show for it.  How long will it be until voters start paying attention.

    • #8093
      Avatarrogpodge
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      Cities are Democrat money laundering machines. Burn down your city, sue the city, get settlement, donate to radical progressive, protest and burn things with impunity, sue city, politicians pay you, and repeat.

      Gavin Newsom mastered this with a series of NGOs and non-profits run by his donors. Pour billions into these organizations to address homelessness, but not really solve the problem, donors get money, donate to him, and repeat.

    • #8097
      Avatarrogpodge
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