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November 12, 2023 at 7:39 pm #7929
Mick1ParticipantApparently, decriminalizing hard drugs with no fear of consequence attracted rampant hard drug use, the users tore up the traffic-ticket-equivalents that they were given, and they avoided rehabilitation whenever they could.
Who knew?
Oregon Decriminalized Hard Drugs. It Isn’t Working. – WSJ
Stanford professor Keith Humphreys says “not a crazy thing to try, but I think they misunderstood addiction.” Oh, really?
Fatal overdoses in Oregon in the 12 months ending in May rose 23% from the same period a eyar earlier. Third highest increase in the nation. Overdose calls to the police have doubled in three years.
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November 12, 2023 at 7:46 pm #7930
LegendKeymasterIt would be funny if it weren’t killing people.
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November 12, 2023 at 8:57 pm #7931
Neodymium60
ParticipantAn old MD friend who has an Infectious Disease specialty told me this story. Had a long term hard drug user patient who he treated many times over the years often with hospitalization. The latest about 3 months, much of it ICU. (In his 40’s). He recovered and before release he had a long talk with the patient about having a new lease on life. He was clean. He regained his health. In a week he was dead of an over dose. I asked him if he had any idea of the cost of his treatments over the years. Figured it was well over a million.
I could get into Fentanyl babies here too but lets just say its worse. As to Oregon, they will get what they deserve.
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November 13, 2023 at 9:06 am #7932
LegendKeymasterFor every tragedy, there is a person taking profits.
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November 13, 2023 at 3:35 pm #7934
Beeg_Dawg
ParticipantRecent experience has ICU cost at $650/hour. Figure in and out over 3 months, your friend gave you a pretty good estimate.
Here is a surprisingly balanced piece from NPR. https://www.npr.org/2021/06/18/1007022652/oregons-pioneering-drug-decriminalization-experiment-is-now-facing-the-hard-test
Measure 101 was sold to the voters that it would improve access to treatment. Access to treatment was not a problem. Getting people to treatment IS the problem.
Oregon policy makers develop programs based on the premise drug addicts are just like everyone else, the only difference is a dependency problem. That might be true, but the numbers don’t lie. Our current methods of treating addiction are not working.
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January 24, 2024 at 10:50 am #8091
Mick1ParticipantDemocratic lawmakers in Oregon on Tuesday unveiled a sweeping new bill that would undo a key part of the state’s first-in-the-nation drug decriminalization law, a recognition that public opinion has soured on the measure amid rampant public drug use during the fentanyl crisis.
The bill would:
- Recriminalize the possession of small amounts of drugs as a low-level misdemeanor
- Enable police to confiscate them and crack down on their use on sidewalks and in parks.
- Make it easier to prosecute dealers
- Make it easier to access addiction treatment medication
- Make it easier to obtain and keep housing without facing discrimination for using that medication.
Oregon lawmakers backpedal on pioneering drug decriminalization law | AP News
Hopefully it’s the start of the road back for Oregon residents. Maybe SF could learn a bit here.
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January 25, 2024 at 3:04 pm #8092
Beeg_Dawg
ParticipantIn all fairness, the Oregon legislature is trying to clean up a voter initiative mess. The law was so eff’ed up, a person could openly smoke Fentanyl in a public park but you could get arrested for having an open beer in the same park.
Incredibly, the measures supporters still maintain we are criminalizing addiction, not solving the problem. Of course, the standard answer to any problem is more money is needed for outreach programs and facilities.
The insanity of Oregon’s approach is the assumption that addicts will make responsible and reasonable decisions. Misunderstand addiction? Well, duh.
California, Oregon and Washington have similar programs for dealing with addiction and homelessness, spending billions with little to nothing to show for it. How long will it be until voters start paying attention.
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January 26, 2024 at 12:30 am #8093
rogpodge
ParticipantSeattle just agreed to pay $10 million to 50 rioters injured by police in 2020.
Denver is paying $4.7 million to 300 BLM rioters arrested in 2020.
Philadelphia is paying them $9 million.
New York City is shelling out $13 million.
In total, $90+ million in taxpayer dollars…
— End Wokeness (@EndWokeness) January 25, 2024
Cities are Democrat money laundering machines. Burn down your city, sue the city, get settlement, donate to radical progressive, protest and burn things with impunity, sue city, politicians pay you, and repeat.
Gavin Newsom mastered this with a series of NGOs and non-profits run by his donors. Pour billions into these organizations to address homelessness, but not really solve the problem, donors get money, donate to him, and repeat.
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January 27, 2024 at 12:31 pm #8097
rogpodge
ParticipantThis is an absolutely insane story, which I hope you'll all read. The chaos in our streets is not an accident. It's been purchased — by you. https://t.co/XR1EIe5rIF
— Mike Solana (@micsolana) January 27, 2024
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