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July 14, 2020 at 10:30 pm #1307LegendKeymaster
Portland seemed like a nice enough city when I visited there 12 or so years ago. Why is it now in its sixth week of rioting? Don’t you eventually enforce a curfew and mean it?
https://www.foxnews.com/us/portland-protests-trump-federal-officer-shooting-anti-fascist-teens
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July 14, 2020 at 10:48 pm #1308rjnwmillParticipant
I think they are mistaken as to what they are “accomplishing”? They feel they are in the forefront of an anti Orange movement/tsunami. I think they are misunderstanding their audience, isolating themselves from the society they seek to change & galvanizing their political opposition. AKA dead men walking.
To this point, I understand there may be interest in recalling the Seattle mayor? I understand Minneapolis “cop free” parks are so non functioning that the locals are requesting that city officials reduce the footprint?
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July 15, 2020 at 12:41 am #1312lex24Participant
Sending in the Feds wasnt the answer. If the Mayor won’t do anything so be it. By sending in the Feds, Trump gave the Mayor a gift. He can blame everything on the Feds. And any violence is just a reaction to the brutal tactics of the Feds. Another dunderheaded move by the Idiot in Chief.
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July 15, 2020 at 4:13 am #1314rjnwmillParticipant
Lex, you sound like Abbey Hoffman. Is it 1968?
Portland has been out of control for years, not six weeks. It has been non-functioning for residents; closed streets, assaults on unbelievers. Didn’t a reporter suffer brain damage when he was hit in the head with a concrete milkshake…on a public street, in broad daylight, in front of law enforcement officers, during a peaceful protest? Hasn’t the mayor directed law enforcement to stand down during the continuing episodes of violence and property damage?
Perhaps you think federal property should be sacrificed to the mob? Perhaps you agree with AOC that the guy with the hammer in Portland was looking for bread to feed his family? Perhaps you think DiBlasio nailed it when he assured N.Y.’ers that the murder of children on the streets in daylight is attributable to COVID-19…the Chinese did it? Perhaps you found the interview with the father and grandmother of the dead one year old unpersuasive? Perhaps you feel the interview of the mother of the dead eight year old in Atlanta is easily dismissed? Perhaps you think the losses suffered by local businesses is immaterial? Perhaps you feel screwed now that you had to cancel plans for your summer sojourn to CHOP?
Good luck trying to win the day with that Trump narrative. The pictures, the palpable heartache of the victims…from Portland, from Minneapolis, from Atlanta, from NY, from D.C., from Seattle don’t lie.
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July 15, 2020 at 8:53 am #1315rjnwmillParticipant
Lex, do you find this policy statement to be wrong headed?
<u>UNITED STATES ATTORNEY MIKE STUART ISSUES STATEMENT REGARDING VIOLENCE AGAINST LAW ENFORCEMENT </u>
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CHARLESTON, W.Va. – United States Attorney Mike Stuart issued the following statement regarding violence against law enforcement.
“Sadly, our law enforcement officers and police have become the target of terrible attacks. Two nights ago in McAllen, Texas, two police officers were fatally shot while responding to a domestic disturbance. Yesterday, in Bothell, Washington, two police officers were shot, one fatally, after a brief traffic pursuit.
The daily assault on law enforcement and the police has to stop. This is not ‘open season’ to attack and condemn the good people of law enforcement. It is absolutely outrageous what is happening across the nation. I cannot imagine the stress and anxiety of being a police officer today. Can you imagine the stress and anxiety not only on the officers but the moms, dads, husbands, wives and children of these public heroes who worry every moment that their loved one may not come home from simply doing their duty and doing their job? This ‘attack our cops’ mentality must end. It must end now. Our law enforcement officers deserve our respect and admiration not our condemnation.
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July 15, 2020 at 9:29 am #1316rjnwmillParticipant
Ps: Lex, did you catch DiBlasios’s recent “solution” yesterday? The good people of BedSty must and will “take back the street corners”?
Tell me, are you partial to vigilante justice…let’s the Mayor redirect that billion to his wife’s visions; or how about an asymmetrical response on the street corner; only the bad guys are armed
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July 16, 2020 at 12:24 am #1329lex24Participant
I’d be impressed by your diligence Bob if you understood my point. I absolutely think the violence needs to stop. That’s the job of the mayor. He wants to sit there with his thumb up his bum – then let him take the blame. Sending in the Feds gives him cover. And it is EXACTLY what Antifa wants. Trump showed restraint in Seattle. Should have done the same in Portland.
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July 16, 2020 at 10:21 am #1338rjnwmillParticipant
Lex, I think I understand your point all too well. You’re being very Bidenesque.
Advance universal goals that the overwhelming majority will support…buy American?Build Back Better? Jobs and middle class wage growth…with open borders?
Nonetheless, I agree with you. The Portland Mayor should step up to the plate with solutions…as should the N.Y. Mayor, the Chicago Mayor.
However, if these limp dicks don’t have the stones to “serve & protect” their communities, someone’s got to do it whether ANTIFA sees political opportunity or not.
And as an aside, ANTIFA is out of touch if they believe the masses will side with them when their heads are busted. Instead, after the violence and the property damage I think the masses will be with anyone who is willing to step up and end this nonsense.
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July 16, 2020 at 12:32 am #1331lex24Participant
“Tataglia is a pimp. It was Barzini all along….”
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July 15, 2020 at 11:10 am #1318LegendKeymaster
[quote quote=1316]Ps: Lex, did you catch DiBlasios’s recent “solution” yesterday? The good people of BedSty must and will “take back the street corners”? Tell me, are you partial to vigilante justice…let’s the Mayor redirect that billion to his wife’s visions; or how about an asymmetrical response on the street corner; only the bad guys are armed[/quote]
Let the good mayor go stand on the street corner. This is a guy whose security detail could rival that of the president.
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July 15, 2020 at 12:40 pm #1319Beeg_DawgParticipant
[quote quote=1312]Sending in the Feds wasnt the answer. If the Mayor won’t do anything so be it. By sending in the Feds, Trump gave the Mayor a gift. He can blame everything on the Feds. And any violence is just a reaction to the brutal tactics of the Feds. Another dunderheaded move by the Idiot in Chief.[/quote]
Lex, Feds were dispatched to protect a federal building. God knows Ted Wheeler won’t do it. He even went record telling the feds to stay in the building or leave his city. As far as brutal tactics, I assume that was tongue in cheek.
Left to me, I would tell Mayor Wheeler “We will protect the perimeter. Anyone attempting to enter the building will be dealt with accordingly.”
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July 15, 2020 at 4:29 pm #1322Neodymium60Participant
Obama likes it. Strip club capital of the world. Can’t pump your own gas.
I’ve only known one person from Portland and she murdered her husband. She was really nice when I knew her. I did know a guy who moved to Portland and I’m told he went insane.
I don’t want anything to do with anyone from Portland.
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July 15, 2020 at 5:35 pm #1323gpn38Participant
[quote quote=1318][quote quote=1316]Ps: Lex, did you catch DiBlasios’s recent “solution” yesterday? The good people of BedSty must and will “take back the street corners”? Tell me, are you partial to vigilante justice…let’s the Mayor redirect that billion to his wife’s visions; or how about an asymmetrical response on the street corner; only the bad guys are armed[/quote] Let the good mayor go stand on the street corner. This is a guy whose security detail could rival that of the president.[/quote]
But he wants the feds to clean up the graffiti from their building
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July 15, 2020 at 5:48 pm #1324LegendKeymaster
[quote quote=1322]Obama likes it. Strip club capital of the world. Can’t pump your own gas. I’ve only known one person from Portland and she murdered her husband. She was really nice when I knew her. I did know a guy who moved to Portland and I’m told he went insane. I don’t want anything to do with anyone from Portland.[/quote]
Well, that sorts it for me!
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July 15, 2020 at 8:39 pm #1326topcameraParticipant
Everything went to shit when the Beavers left town.
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July 16, 2020 at 1:03 am #1333Beeg_DawgParticipant
[quote quote=1329]I’d be impressed by your diligence Bob if you understood my point. I absolutely think the violence needs to stop. That’s the job of the mayor. He wants to sit there with his thumb up his bum – then let him take the blame. Sending in the Feds gives him cover. And it is EXACTLY what Antifa wants. Trump showed restraint in Seattle. Should have done the same in Portland.[/quote]
Lex, you obviously missed my post on this. Trump gave instructions to a variety of Federal Law Enforcement agencies to protect federal buildings. He did not do so in Seattle because there was no perceived threat to federal buildings.
Ted Wheeler has made it perfectly clear rioters suffer no consequences for destroying local businesses, iconic statues and the like. As mayor, shouldn’t Wheeler be held responsible for destruction of public and private property he is supposed to protect? (Remember, he heads the police department.)
Trump is protecting what was paid for with YOUR federal tax dollars when Ted Wheeler won’t. I applaud that position.
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July 16, 2020 at 1:57 am #1334lex24Participant
[quote quote=1333][quote quote=1329]I’d be impressed by your diligence Bob if you understood my point. I absolutely think the violence needs to stop. That’s the job of the mayor. He wants to sit there with his thumb up his bum – then let him take the blame. Sending in the Feds gives him cover. And it is EXACTLY what Antifa wants. Trump showed restraint in Seattle. Should have done the same in Portland.[/quote] Lex, you obviously missed my post on this. Trump gave instructions to a variety of Federal Law Enforcement agencies to protect federal buildings. He did not do so in Seattle because there was no perceived threat to federal buildings. Ted Wheeler has made it perfectly clear rioters suffer no consequences for destroying local businesses, iconic statues and the like. As mayor, shouldn’t Wheeler be held responsible for destruction of public and private property he is supposed to protect? (Remember, he heads the police department.) Trump is protecting what was paid for with YOUR federal tax dollars when Ted Wheeler won’t. I applaud that position.[/quote]
Absolutely Wheeler should be held responsible. And while I get your (and Bobs) point, I just disagree. I think Antifa wants the Feds involved. Because they can be assured the Feds will get the blame. And their position is thus advanced.
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July 16, 2020 at 9:51 am #1335Neodymium60Participant
Remember Kent State? It ended the protests for better or worse. You can make your own judgements as to the parallels with today. Not really that much difference as to the mayhem that was going on. The Ohio governor called in the National Guard at the request of Kent Mayor LeRoy Satrom. The order to lock and load was given by NG General Robert Canterbury. To me protestors cross the line at looting and then all bets are off to stop them. I am sure the Mayor of Portland is well aware of what happened at Kent St.
https://www.history.com/topics/vietnam-war/kent-state-shooting
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July 16, 2020 at 1:56 pm #1342RoscoeMaynardParticipant
I used to live in Portland, hell Gladstone, Milwaukee and Beaverton too…Salem, Corvallis, Eugene, Waldport and Camp Cascade as well. But I left a long time ago for economic reasons and won’t be moving back… I like fruitloops, whackos and perverts…let’s get it on…but when I can’t safely get the Blue Heron Brewery or Jake’s or The Ringside or Higgins, to hell with it. These idiots, these Reed College and Lewis & Clark College and Portland State ninnies need to get a freaking life.
And by the way, this is precisely why Wheeler was elected.
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July 16, 2020 at 4:00 pm #1344topcameraParticipant
Is Powell’s still there?
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July 16, 2020 at 4:20 pm #1345RoscoeMaynardParticipant
I ordered books from them last week, online. So it depends on where you mean by “there.”
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