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    • #4473
      Avatarrogpodge
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      The Georgia call stuff was all made up.  Great.

    • #4474
      LegendLegend
      Keymaster

      It’s really hard to believe that something so egregious could have actually happened at one of the so-called national newspapers.  However, when it came to Trump, any lie was ok as long as it took him down.   Frankly he was too effective at keeping us out of wars and inside of our borders.

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    • #4475
      rjnwmillrjnwmill
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      I wish the reporter could be compelled to reveal their “source”.  A gross falsehood for purely political purposes. And likely someone on the public payroll.

      Here's a toast with one last pour, may it last forever and a minute more;
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      • #4518
        johnnyo53johnnyo53
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        Exactly.  Trump was too good at keeping us out of wars and cutting back on overseas adventures…

        “I remember that one fateful day when Coach took me aside. I knew what was coming. "You don't have to tell me," I said. "I'm off the team, aren't I?" "Well," said Coach, "you never were really ON the team. You made that uniform you're wearing out of rags and towels, and your helmet is a toy space helmet. You show up at practice and then either steal the ball and make us chase you to get it back, or you try to tackle people at inappropriate times." It was all true what he was saying. And yet, I

    • #4487
      AvatarCornfed
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      Glen Greenwald addressed the WaPo malfeasance in his column yesterday.  Very powerful.

       

      https://greenwald.substack.com/p/how-do-big-media-outlets-so-often

       

      • #4488
        rjnwmillrjnwmill
        Participant

        Good read Cornfed

        Here's a toast with one last pour, may it last forever and a minute more;
        Good fortune seems to you have sung, to live and love way past long

      • #4491
        MickMick
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        I wonder if Stanford grad Rachel Maddow is ever even slightly embarrassed over her falsehoods?

        https://cdn.substack.com/image/fetch/f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fbucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fbf3bd77e-c490-4c8f-ad3d-882fc8908273_660x604.png

        She has no problem calling out Trump on his falsehoods, of which there are many.  But I don’t recall any pre-2020 election retractions by any of the media or Mr. Brennan over their own falsehoods about Trump.  And the fact that a journalist with both the background and leaning of Glenn Greenwald publishes this story is borderline unbelievable.

        The fact remains that, had it not been for the coronavirus, in all likelihood, Trump would still be President.

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        • #4493
          rjnwmillrjnwmill
          Participant

          The fact remains that, had it not been for the coronavirus, in all likelihood, Trump would still be President.”

          You think the Chinese were smart enough to design and execute a plan to influence the election?

          Here's a toast with one last pour, may it last forever and a minute more;
          Good fortune seems to you have sung, to live and love way past long

    • #4494
      AvatarBeyondThunderdome
      Participant

      The Washington Post screwed up by using supposed direct quotes based on memory of someone instead of a summary. So, yes, Trump didn’t say “find the fraud”. But I’ve got a bridge to sell you if you don’t think that’s essentially what he was asking. The guy wasn’t calling just to shoot the breeze.

      The real story still remains that it was wildly inappropriate and possibly illegal for a President to be calling election officials and trying to get them to change votes. There is audio of him calling Raffensperger and asking him to find 11,780 votes.

      NO MALARKEY

      • #4511
        rjnwmillrjnwmill
        Participant

        The Washington Post screwed up by using supposed direct quotes based on memory of someone instead of a summary.”

        Publishing an editorial as factual reporting?  Your reading of intent in a “summary”?  So much for your career on the faculty at a school of journalism.

        Here's a toast with one last pour, may it last forever and a minute more;
        Good fortune seems to you have sung, to live and love way past long

        • #4512
          cardcrimsoncardcrimson
          Participant

          [quote quote=4511]“The Washington Post screwed up by using supposed direct quotes based on memory of someone instead of a summary.” Publishing an editorial as factual reporting? Your reading of intent in a “summary”? So much for your career on the faculty at a school of journalism.[/quote]

          Sadly, that is journalism today. . . .

      • #4526
        AvatarCornfed
        Participant

        BTD, this is pure deflection.  Provide a link to a responsible source that proves this assertion.

    • #4519
      johnnyo53johnnyo53
      Participant

      [quote quote=4493]“The fact remains that, had it not been for the coronavirus, in all likelihood, Trump would still be President.” You think the Chinese were smart enough to design and execute a plan to influence the election?[/quote]

      Rachel Maddow’s only embarrassment is that she doesn’t have a penis.

       

      “I remember that one fateful day when Coach took me aside. I knew what was coming. "You don't have to tell me," I said. "I'm off the team, aren't I?" "Well," said Coach, "you never were really ON the team. You made that uniform you're wearing out of rags and towels, and your helmet is a toy space helmet. You show up at practice and then either steal the ball and make us chase you to get it back, or you try to tackle people at inappropriate times." It was all true what he was saying. And yet, I

    • #4539
      MickMick
      Participant

      The fact remains that, had it not been for the coronavirus, in all likelihood, Trump would still be President.” You think the Chinese were smart enough to design and execute a plan to influence the election?

       

      I think the Chinese, Russians, Iranians, Panamanians and Pomeranians (and all other countries and dog species) all designed and executed plans to affect the 2020 American Presidential election.  Everyone wanted a piece and they have for many years.  In fact, I was in a London hotel room during the 2008 U.S. Presidential election, and the BBC interviewed a (future) Karen in the City of London who opined on the 2008 American Presidential Election that “the problem with the American Presidential Election is that it is too consequential to be left solely up to Americans.”  Looooooove that quote, almost as much as I love the fact that tons and tons of worldly American Elites feel basically the same way.

      But that’s what’s behind the desire of countries to influence leadership votes in other countries, and Lord knows, we have had an outsized impact on the elections in other countries.

      The question, to me, is not whether other countries designed and executed plans to affect the outcome of ourPresidential election.  It’s whether they’re successful.  Our naivete is striking in that we take such (hypocritical) offense at their efforts, though their interest in who becomes our President should be abundantly clear.

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    • #4541
      cardcrimsoncardcrimson
      Participant

      And if you don’t think we work to influence their elections, I’ve some land to sell you.

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