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This was explained ad nauseam. Most Californians saw this as a last resort. It was a response to Texas and other red state gerrymandering. Newsom explained this before Texas finalized their plans and before they bent over backwards for Trump, who said he was “entitled” to five more seats in Texas.
Prop 50 would not have been pursued if Texas simply acted in good faith, which literally required doing nothing. But they went ahead with their new redistricting maps, so California responded.
But instead of blaming Texas for initiating this latest race to the bottom, you blame California for responding? It’s hard to take the faux outrage seriously when there’s not even a simple mention of Texas or any of the numerous red states that have been redrawing maps for years now, often unlawfully.
When you understand "the deep state" simply refers to the rule of law, it makes much more sense.
Mick. Democrats have voted almost unanimously to limit money in politics over many congressional bills. I detailed that in another thread. Republicans, on the other hand, have blocked these efforts almost unanimously. But Democrats aren’t going to unilaterally disarm.
i would be thrilled to get Soros and any other rich Democratic donors to fuck off. But until Republicans agree to that, as well, then sorry, not sorry.
your outrage should be at all the conservatives who blocked the efforts to get money out of politics. But you dutifully vote for them every cycle and spend your time defending them. So forgive me if I’m not that sympathetic about Soros donating to something you don’t like.
When you understand "the deep state" simply refers to the rule of law, it makes much more sense.
Old new, but I haven’t been here for a while: Maxwell was moved to club fed. Had to get special permission.
totally not suspicious. All very normal.
When you understand "the deep state" simply refers to the rule of law, it makes much more sense.
Sorry. I guess this site doesn’t render quotes well from an iPad. They looked fine when I posted.
suffice to say, non conservatives are no longer welcome at the pentagon.
All hail the dear leader. Praise be upon him.
When you understand "the deep state" simply refers to the rule of law, it makes much more sense.
California is trying to do it in response to Texas. If you are following this, Newsom made it quite clear he didn’t want to do this and wouldn’t unless Texas lubed up and bent over for Trump after he demanded it. But Texas released their map, so Newsom is following suit.
Democrats don’t want gerrymandering. They have set up independent councils and have tried to take the high road. Certainly far more than Republicans. There have been several Congressional votes recently where Democrats tried to get rid of gerrymandering. But of course Republicans voted these down on 100% party lines. Some recent history:
Congress considered several bills to eliminate partisan gerrymandering. The only ones that reached a vote were the For the People Act in 2019 and again in 2021. Both times, the House passed the bill almost entirely along party lines: in 2019, Democrats voted 234 to 0 in favor while Republicans voted 193 to 0 against, and in 2021, Democrats voted 220 to 0 in favor while Republicans voted 210 to 0 against. When the Senate took up the measure in 2021, it failed on a 50/50 split, with every Democrat voting yes and every Republican voting no.
Other bills addressing gerrymandering, such as the Freedom to Vote Act, the Open Our Democracy Act, and the Fair Representation Act, were introduced but never advanced to floor votes. I’m sure you can guess: these were killed in committee or filibuster by Republicans.
if you listen to Newsom or any other Democrat pushing for this now in California, they have made it quite clear they don’t want to do this, but don’t want to unilaterally surrender to Republicans who have no qualms about it. They have said they would support a ban on gerrymandering if Republicans would agree (not holding my breath). But in the meantime they need to fight fire with fire.
I don’t know if it will work out for Newsom or other Democrats. But when you see Republicans clutching their pearls over what Newsom is doing, please understand it’s just crocodile tears.
When you understand "the deep state" simply refers to the rule of law, it makes much more sense.
As I said, probably a long shot. But I’d guess the odds of a Congressional “investigation” are reasonably high. Now that Hunter Biden’s laptop is irrelevant, some other bullshit will no doubt require a year or two of Congressional hearings.
When you understand "the deep state" simply refers to the rule of law, it makes much more sense.
Crime is down in DC. But Trump needs to normalize this fascist crap so it seems routine when he sends the brownshirts to intimidate everyone in other blue cities. Don’t take my word for it. Here’s Trump’s own DOJ (and I do mean his own in a literal sense):
Violent Crime in D.C. Hits 30 Year Low
And, no, these stats aren’t manipulated. You can’t hide murders, for example, which are down 32%.
When you understand "the deep state" simply refers to the rule of law, it makes much more sense.
Multiple statewide surveys, including the Public Policy Institute of California’s (PPIC) recurring voter polls, show that NPP voters in California lean Democratic by a clear margin in federal races. In PPIC’s July 2024 survey, 54% of NPP voters said they would vote for the Democratic candidate for U.S. House, 33% for the Republican, and the rest undecided or for other parties. Not quite 2 to 1, but close enough.
On the “17:13” figure you’re referencing from Pew — that’s a national split of independents leanings, not California-specific. California’s electorate is significantly different from the national average. In a solidly blue state, independents here tilt more Democratic than independents nationwide. Voting data from recent elections, which reflects actual ballots cast, shows that California NPP voters break toward Democrats. So while your national figure is probably accurate, it doesn’t reflect how California independents actually vote in congressional elections.
When you understand "the deep state" simply refers to the rule of law, it makes much more sense.
Was I ever defending inflation in 2022? Please point me to those comments. I’ll do you a favor and quote myself:
Biden didn’t do himself any favors and spent too much, as well.
Biden is no longer President. I was critical of him many times. Trump is President now. And he is enacting insane economic policies while his cheerleaders engage in magical thinking, pretending it will all work out fine.
Do you think these tariffs are some 4-D chess move? What happened to the 90 deals in 90 days?
When you understand "the deep state" simply refers to the rule of law, it makes much more sense.
What does the government sending thugs Newsom’s press conference have to do with enforcement?
Seriously, is there nothing you won’t defend?
Can you not simply admit this is insane authoritarianism instead of engaging in whataboutism and semantics about brownshirts?
There’s really no comparison between what the Trump administration is doing and Antifa. The administration is the federal government. It has the legal authority, the money, the military, the courts, and the police to enforce its will on the entire country.
Antifa is not even a formal organization. It’s a loose collection of activists. They can’t pass laws and can’t order the police or military to do anything. Whatever actions they take, whether it is showing up at rallies, shouting people down, or damaging property, are limited and don’t have the force of law behind them.
Authoritarian tactics from the top down, such as mass detention, politicized prosecutions, civil service purges, and surveillance, can strip away rights across the board. Antifa might break the law or intimidate individuals, but they do not control the justice system.
When you understand "the deep state" simply refers to the rule of law, it makes much more sense.
I’m waiting for the update. It’s going to get much worse, but here’s a sneak preview:
I’m still mystified that you guys think Trump has discovered some secret economic formula that eluded the world’s economists for the last 100 years. As if implementing insanely high tariffs is not inflationary.
I mentioned a few months ago that it would take a few months to start feeling it. Economies don’t change on a dime, so to speak. There was a nice dead-cat bounce in the stock market and some of the numbers, as people rushed to stock up on supplies, to weather the storm while hoping Trump would not actually suicide the U.S. economy. Some companies have also been eating the extra costs. But reality will sink in soon. Corporations can’t hold out forever and keep swallowing the tariffs. And the pre-tariff supplies will run out.
Weren’t there supposed to be 90 deals in 90 days? It’s been well over 90 days. What happened to those deals?
When you understand "the deep state" simply refers to the rule of law, it makes much more sense.
Antifa was not sent by the government.
When you understand "the deep state" simply refers to the rule of law, it makes much more sense.
Headline from the future (probably):
Breaking News October 3, 2025: “Trump viciously attacked the payroll company ADP today for releasing a “totally fake, deep state biased” jobs report, saying “their numbers are so wrong, you wouldn’t believe” and that “never in my life have I seen such a political hack as ADP”.
When you understand "the deep state" simply refers to the rule of law, it makes much more sense.
Come on Mick. Compare the backgrounds of the Biden appointee to the BLS vs. the guy Trump is expecting to replace her with (E.J. Antoni). Like everyone else in the Trump administration, his number one qualification is loyalty to Trump — not the constitution, not America, not the BLS, or the facts.
Erika McEntarfer was not a Biden loyalist or partisan operative. Her background was as a career labor economist and statistician, with roles at the Census Bureau, the Federal Reserve, and academia. She wasn’t known for political activism or public commentary, and her time at BLS was nonpartisan and methodologically driven.
E.J. Antoni, on the other hand, is not a neutral expert. He’s deeply enmeshed in conservative ideology and media. The guy is literally straight from the Heritage Foundation, Project 2025, and Fox News. Oh, and of course he was at the Capitol on Jan 6th.
His nomination raises serious alarms about potential politicization of BLS data. Color me skeptical that the crap coming out the BLS in the future will be nothing but partisan spin.
When you understand "the deep state" simply refers to the rule of law, it makes much more sense.
