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rjnwmillParticipant[quote quote=6025]As bad as Kim Jong Un is/was, his sister is mean as a rattlesnake…[/quote]
Oh geez. Does Putin have a sister?
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rjnwmillParticipant“(The law prohibits all such classroom instruction in kindergarten through third grade.)
<p class=””>The legislation shows a politician ready to parlay anti-gay bias into votes by marginalizing youth and reinforcing what up until a few years ago felt like grossly outdated cultural mores. In the wake of this effort, we’ve seen an uptick in divisive, homophobic rhetoric accusing LGBT-inclusive teachers and parents of “grooming” children, or even of pedophilia.”</p>
It’s going to be some election cycle as tonight Trump did his best Werner Wolfe with a call to, “Go to the video tape”. He’s referring to Dinesh D’Souza’s scheduled early May release of his election fraud documentary, 2000 Mules.here is a link to the trailer Trump used at the rally:
https://www.truethevote.org/sneak-peek-new-2000-mules-footage-released/
The themes for the competing narratives are coming into view. It will be interesting to see if D’Souza’s documentary stands up to scrutiny when released. (D’Souza himself pled guilty to violating election laws). Clearly the left has some holes in their basic argument. See the quoted passage above from rogpodge’s link above. The suggestion that specifically targeted curriculum limitations, grade K through 3, are submitted as a root cause of widespread prejudice?
Let the games begin.
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rjnwmillParticipant- [quote quote=6022]Speaking of disinformation. that news item is from 2020.[/quote]
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Does this give me cause to question the wisdom of Barak? I didn’t know better…I assumed the “news” was current…and I don’t feel damaged?
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rjnwmillParticipantWho’s up next, his sister?
id hate to be the attending physician.
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rjnwmillParticipant“Democrats becoming laissez-faire capitalists pontificating on low taxes?”
Are you sure? Regulatory initiatives from the administration are profoundly impacting business opportunities and economics.
This link might be of interest to you. The Brookings folks summarize the scope and reach. They are profound.
https://www.brookings.edu/interactives/tracking-regulatory-changes-in-the-biden-era/
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rjnwmillParticipantMick, you have to acknowledge that John knows how to set a tone for a discussion. Was he at your dinner party?
Personally, the focus of the discussion was a bit myopic? Discussing Trump didn’t work for McCauliff. It is a bit limiting for the context for 2024. Trump hasn’t decided/announced his intentions. However if his candidates do well in the midterms, he gains momentum. If he elects not to run, his legacy is available to his preferred candidate. Pompeo has the Abraham accords, the China tariffs and the withdrawal from the Iran deal and the climate accords. The downsides resulting from the Democrats’ prior and subsequent policy is an easy elevator speech. Desantis has the parents rights issues and his Covid performance. Both of these guys can defang Trump in the Republican qualifying heats perhaps, if he chooses to run.
The democrats, Biden? Harris? Buttigeg? Sanders? Doesn’t their legacy disqualify them?
And then there’s Trump. I’d be interested in understanding why the people at dinner concluded he can’t put the lie to the democrats attempts to brand him. The January 6 fools/folks have turned to the DoJ to beg them to indict because they’ve got nothing. Durham and the Delaware guy don’t seem to be similarly limited. And look back 12 years. Who in your memory, Biden excluded has put up a worse record at the first midterms than Obama. He got killed in a landslide in 2010. He got killed in the first debate before Romney went on vacation. Trump will have a policy record to run on, he will have the momentum from the midterms, he might have successful criminal prosecutions of some who wronged him, and he’s got two years to rebrand and soften the edges.
2024 brings Trump policies back no matter who the standard bearer is.
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rjnwmillParticipantBob, Upton is simply stating a fact proven daily in the House. As for Biden, he is adrift on a stormy ocean in a leaky boat with one oar.
Biden ran and won by promising to be a moderate, but since the election has gone further left than “liberal” and has attempted to execute on the Progressive agenda.
BD, personally, I think Upton is simply wrong with respect to how our government should work. He’s hoping for circumstances that would permit the furtherance of his preferred policy outcomes without compromise. That’s his preference, certainly not what’s best.
The “contra Upton” has played out over the last 15 months. Progressives and moderates couldn’t make a deal. Progressives put the Biden Agenda on hold by linking infrastructure and BBB. Manchin said thank you, no. They had to deal. I don’t like what we got, nor do the progressives, nor does Manchin. But Congress had to make decisions affirmatively.
So Upton would be forced to deal with “his guys” instead of simply ignoring them? Tough luck Fred. If you’d prefer…do nothing if you don’t have the requisite skills to negotiate a compromise. There’s plenty of right wingers and “Manchins” to engage with. DO YOUR JOB. Don’t blame voters/districts IN ADVANCE for your inability to succeed.
As to Biden, he paid lip service to many things including killing oil, opening borders, ridiculous self financing spending, ten years of revenue compared to three years of spending, reestablishing our respected leadership in the world and unity? He’s delivered incompetence. At the end of the day, that’s the one promise he skillfully avoided disclosing.
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rjnwmillParticipantMeanwhile, the Minority Leadership in the House, Fred “Paul Ryan” Upton puts the cards face up on the table. Absent a significant majority, republicans will find it hard to legislate as it is necessary to marginalize/ignore/put the lie to their more rightward members. Yea Party part deux?
Upton can permit them to lie to their voters in order to win a majority as long as he can isolate them from participating in the governing process.
But hey Freddy, let’s run on that America First agenda…snicker, wink & fingers crossed. At least Biden tried to follow his campaign commitments.
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rjnwmillParticipant“Each year, she’d send out a questionnaire to the parents, asking what they wanted their children to learn that year — in first grade. Her first year, one parent wrote back that she wanted her child to have a thorough grounding in biology, chemistry and physics. For her seven year old.”
I imagine that if Ms. Mick repeated her surveys now the results would be quite different? Parents now surely want their first graders to focus on the kids’ sexual identity, LGBTQ family relationships, CRT, institutional racism and white privilege. Biology, chemistry & physics is so last century.
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rjnwmillParticipantOver the last 40 years housing prices have increased twice as fast as GDP. With borders wide open, I suspect this trend will continue?
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rjnwmillParticipantMick, this NPR article is an interesting follow on to your Atlantic link.
It suggests to me that the social media platform vendors are not much interested in their possible use as a distribution channel for the divisive content that is undermining the trust in our institutions.
It seems odd to me that they can with their algorithms isolate and reject content generated by the NY Post, a former president, but are unable to identify and de-platform bots seeking to undermine our institutions.
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rjnwmillParticipantNo insurrection here!
And we can forget about the Zuck Bucks, the ballot harvesting & and the inappropriate/illegal process changes implemented at the local level. These deliberate and coordinated acts may have been planned and implemented by political actors seeking to influence the election outcome, but that’s no more an insurrection than suppressing information about candidate character and grift, right?
We must focus exclusively on the January 6th misadventures. That’s the story! Bennie, Adam and Liz have assured us. Interesting though, that they’ve interviewed hundreds of witnesses, that they’ve leaked like a sieve, and now they assure us the real guys that can tell the story include Navarro & the wife of a Supreme Court Justice? Is Mueller running this investigation too?
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rjnwmillParticipant[quote quote=5950]my personal view is that I’d rather have someone incompetent than an anti Democratic President like Trump running the country. ..But Trump had a blatant disregard of (and undermined) many of our institutions, norms, and laws that are necessary for a healthy democracy. Many of you think he made the trains run on time, so to speak, but he was otherwise a cancer on our democracy. You want to minimize the attack on the Capitol as some small number of nut-cases. [/quote]
You’re we’ll read and generally express positions well. What I don’t understand is the myopia around Trump and January 6th.
The Capital breach is not as simple as you suggest. The recent Whitmer decisions and the FBI’s “support” for the plot; does it cause you to question or reconsider your attribution of responsibility for January 6th to Trump?
Does the dossier, the Schiff bull shit, the two impeachment attempts, the “whistleblower” and the characterization of the “perfect call”, the facts surrounding the Sussman indictment, the lies to the FISA court qualify as an attempt at insurrection? Were they perhaps a more serious attempt at insurrection, perpetrated by more serious men than some out of control group of unarmed clowns who delayed a constitutional process… for a couple of hours? The impeachment bull shit cost 2+ years?
January 6th was a day, a single unimportant distraction. Not much farther afield than Gore v Bush. However, I think there is merit in examining why our government is broken. Why our institutions don’t reflect the wishes of the electorate. Why has politics subverted our constitution? Why our leadership is not committed to make the trains run on time, as you pointed out. Why has narrative replaced discussion of the facts? How do we overcome the collusion between the media, social media and the political class? What’s changed from Woodward & Bernstein and the “coverage” of Biden’s laptop and the grifting? Geez, a President owned by our strongest competitor? Is that an insurrection? Perpetrated in the shadows? Facilitated by ignorance or a deliberate lack of interest?
To the extent Trump has seriously impacted our country positively, a work that is unfinished, it is that he’s facilitated transparency. A real good look at what’s wrong, and there is a lot wrong. A real good look at the self dealing assholes that occupy both sides of the aisle. (Pelosi tearing up a State of the Union address was priceless. Pierre Dilecto seeking Trump’s support in an election contest, seeking to become his Secretary of State, and then citing principle as the basis for his impeachment vote. Really? Trump’s character didn’t change during the last four years. McCain campaigning on repeal and replace to gain reelection only to tell AZ voters, F you.)
Our institutions are not functioning correctly. I’d support Trump for another term, not because he’s a paragon of virtue, but more of these assholes need to be exposed. And his character/ego shortcomings seem to bring out the worst in people. The character limitations they try so hard to disguise come into full relief. Fuck the lot of them…plus Trump enjoyed some policy success as you note.
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rjnwmillParticipanthttps://nypost.com/2022/04/06/judge-finds-man-not-guilty-in-first-capitol-riot-acquittal/
Yes, you are right. You were early in advancing a narrative about an “insurrection”. So? An insurrection by a largely unarmed mob that was in part directed into the capital by the police?
Didn’t you also buy into the narrative created by the 50 intel experts? The narrative about Trump/Russia collusion sold by Sussman? The Schiff narrative about “evidence of collusion in plain sight”?
Those narratives were used to justify your support for Biden? But hey, he’s trying to deliver your wealth tax, no?
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rjnwmillParticipantSums it up nicely and pairs perfectly with todays news. Biden is out regaling in the success of his sanctions as his Joint Chiefs guy is updating his estimate about the length of the war in Ukraine, rich.
We’ve gone from two weeks to years.
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