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  • in reply to: Politics: Marketing vs. Substance #8803
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    You buy into the conspiracy that Michelle Obama was going to replace Biden? The only person I heard touting that was Rosanne Barr.

    The rumor was that Barack HUSSEIN Obama probably wanted another candidate or at least some Kind of quick open primary. But Michelle Obama famously hates politics. There was no way she would have entertained anything like that.

    Harris would not have been my first choice. Quite low on my list, actually. But still far preferable to both Biden and the deranged Republican candidate.

    When you understand "the deep state" simply refers to the rule of law, it makes much more sense.

    in reply to: Time to take the keys away from Grandpa? #8802
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    Hey cardcrimson. I really have no strong opinion about whether he should step down. I certainly don’t think he’ll last four more years and was thrilled when he announced he was not running again.

    I think mostly he’s physically declining, but probably mentally a bit, as well. I think he’s probably well enough to serve out the next five months, but I wouldn’t be upset if he Harris needed to take over.

    When you understand "the deep state" simply refers to the rule of law, it makes much more sense.

    in reply to: Politics: Marketing vs. Substance #8795
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    Meh. It wasn’t a coup. Obviously it wasn’t really a very democratic process. There was no redo of the primary process or some version of that. But Biden had the delegates (and Harris was on the ticket when they won the delegates) and it was ultimately up to him. At most he was pressured, but was not forced to step away from the campaign.

    Many Democrats, like myself, were terribly concerned he wouldn’t quit the race. Many others were hoping he would stay in the race and argued passionately with me when I said he needed to step aside.

    Regardless, Biden knew he didn’t have to step away and apparently pushed back against the idea quite strongly for several weeks. I think he thought he wasn’t doing quite as badly as others did. And I think he was concerned Harris or any other candidate might have trouble beating Trump. And after the debate he wanted to try to bounce back and show the country it was just one bad night and that he still had what it took. But obviously he did not.

    It took some time for the polls and poll averages to catch up, and Biden didn’t lose as much support as many, like myself, expected right away. So insiders (e.g., Pelosi) had to show him a lot of polling and other data to c0nvince him it was a hopeless case. They eventually convinced him, but it was never a sure thing and certainly not a coup.

    I’m sure after the election is over Frontline or some other venue will do a documentary about it and I suspect it will show that Biden came very close to staying in.

    When you understand "the deep state" simply refers to the rule of law, it makes much more sense.

    in reply to: Time to take the keys away from Grandpa? #8786
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    Trump’s latest insane bleat on his Pravda network:

    Has anyone noticed that Kamala CHEATED at the airport? There was nobody at the plane, and she “A.I.’d” it, and showed a massive “crowd” of so-called followers, BUT THEY DIDN’T EXIST! She was turned in by a maintenance worker at the airport when he noticed the fake crowd picture, but there was nobody there, later confirmed by the reflection of the mirror like finish on the Vice Presidential Plane. She’s a CHEATER. She had NOBODY waiting, and the “crowd” looked like 10,000 people! Same thing is happening with her fake “crowds” at her speeches. This is the way the Democrats win Elections, by CHEATING – And they’re even worse at the Ballot Box. She should be disqualified because the creation of a fake image is ELECTION INTERFERENCE. Anyone who does that will cheat at ANYTHING!

    I really wish more voters understood how unhinged this guy is becoming. I guess we can add conspiracy theorist to his résumé.

    He is also now calling the VP “Kamabla”. When he first wrote it, I thought maybe it was a typo. But he’s been repeating it. Is this guy in 6th grade or something? I wouldn’t be surprised if he starts singing “neener neener neener” at Harris.

    I guess I shouldn’t be surprised by his childish behavior. About a year ago, on a conservative forum on Reddit there was a thread marked as “satire” in which people were making political jokes — about Democrats, of course. I sarcastically asked if Trump (in his pending trials) would be tried as an adult. I was, of course, promptly banned from the forum. No jokes allowed about the Dear Leader in conservative forums, apparently. I should have known better, I suppose, but I thought conservatives didn’t believe in censorship.

    When you understand "the deep state" simply refers to the rule of law, it makes much more sense.

    in reply to: Time to take the keys away from Grandpa? #8785
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    @rogpodge,

    For the Minnesota cases, the reports didn’t give many details, but did say that the infants had severe fetal anomalies which would impact viability. The others were described as not viable due to extreme prematurity or otherwise non-viable.

    From Factcheck.org:

    in terms of a baby’s viability — the ability to survive outside the womb — one 2015 study in the New England Journal of Medicine on preterm births said: “Active [lifesaving] intervention for infants born before 22 weeks of gestation is generally not recommended, whereas the approach for infants born at or after 22 weeks of gestation varies.” The study noted the “extremely difficult” decision on whether to use treatment for infants “born near the limit of viability,” saying that while in some cases treatment is clearly indicated or not, “in many cases, it is unclear whether treatment is in the infant’s best interest.”

    There are any number of reasons why some fetuses are non-viable. In many of these cases, the outcomes are quite horrific and can cause terrible suffering (e.g., anencephaly). I don’t know what happened in these specific cases — and the report doesn’t say — but most likely these were extremely tough outcomes for the families and the health workers. In situations where the condition is deemed nonviable, providing palliative or comfort care rather than aggressive life-saving measures may be the compassionate choice.

    When you understand "the deep state" simply refers to the rule of law, it makes much more sense.

    in reply to: Bizarre JD Vance #8776
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    For one thing, Biden only announced he was not going to run 18 days ago. Harris was the presumptive nominee only 2+ weeks ago. I would imagine she’s been focusing day and night on making a whirlwind number of important decisions regarding who should run the campaign, strategy, events, who the VP should be, doing the events, not to mention spending time shoring up support of delegates, other Democrats, etc.

    I’m not Harris’ apologist, but now that she probably has many of the major strategic issues sorted out, I would imagine she’ll hold a press conference or interview(s) soon.

    When you understand "the deep state" simply refers to the rule of law, it makes much more sense.

    in reply to: Time to take the keys away from Grandpa? #8765
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    Another update: Trump repeating his fiction about “Post birth abortion”, as he said at the debate: “The doctor takes the baby when it’s born, and they set it on the table and let the mother decide, and then if she decides she doesn’t want it THEN THEY KILL IT”.

    Is he a moron or a liar? The answer is obvious: both.

    When you understand "the deep state" simply refers to the rule of law, it makes much more sense.

    in reply to: Time to take the keys away from Grandpa? #8764
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    Update from today: his crowd was “bigger than Martin Luther King’s”. JFC this guy is so insufferable.

    When you understand "the deep state" simply refers to the rule of law, it makes much more sense.

    in reply to: Bizarre JD Vance #8762
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    A stalker is a stalker. I don’t care what dumb reason they give. It’s fucking creepy.

    When you understand "the deep state" simply refers to the rule of law, it makes much more sense.

    in reply to: Harris’ VP selection is Minnesota Gov. Tim Walz #8752
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    His record in Congress for 12 years was ranked as pretty moderate.

    There’s a long recording of Trump effusively praising Walz multiple times on a call with him for his handling of the situation post George Floyd.

    When you understand "the deep state" simply refers to the rule of law, it makes much more sense.

    in reply to: Kamala Harris, most liberal Senator #8700
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    I’ll take someone too liberal or too conservative over a MAGA party that is destroying our democracy.

    I remember back on the original CEB around 2016, when Trump was running, I said he was a cancer on our democracy. Here we are 8 years later and the entire right wing establishment is now in his pocket and nobody on his side believes in anything except his mantra that the country is failing and everything is corrupt — when in reality he is the guy corrupting it more than anyone.

    It’s amazing that I yearn for the days of Bush. I spent years on the CEB railing against his policies and the Iraq War. I turned out to be right (and now all the MAGA are pretending they hated Bush too, when they were cheerleading all that shit). But at least we simply had differences of opinion and policy. His policies were disastrous, as were his court picks, but they were things we could move on from. Now we’re on the brink of some dystopian country thanks to the pied piper of corruption — Trump.

    When you understand "the deep state" simply refers to the rule of law, it makes much more sense.

    in reply to: 538 Presidential prediction #8699
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    Steve Bannon admitting Trump is just going to say he won

    When you understand "the deep state" simply refers to the rule of law, it makes much more sense.

    in reply to: 538 Presidential prediction #8679
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    It doesn’t make any difference. If Trump loses he will fire up the conspiracy theories and lawsuits regardless of any validity. If he loses a by a little, his people will assume it was “rigged”. If he loses by a lot his people will definitely think it was rigged. He will never admit defeat. And he (and many of his supporters) will believe any dumb conspiracy, as we saw in 2020.

    It doesn’t matter who he was running against, what the polls said, what the evidence is. As you may recall, in 2016, during the Republican primary, he claimed the outcome in some states and the process and was rigged. Everything in his life, if it doesn’t favor him, is rigged.

    Heads he wins; tails it was rigged.

    When you understand "the deep state" simply refers to the rule of law, it makes much more sense.

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    Hey Cardcrimson: As you can imagine, I don’t condone any of this stuff, but since you’re making it political, just a reminder that Trump joked about Pelosi’s husband at a rally (everyone laughed) after he was beaten with a hammer nearly to death — not to mention the guy was trying to kill the Speaker of the House.

    Donald Trump Jr. also mocked the attack on Paul Pelosi by sharing a meme on social media. The meme depicted a Halloween costume consisting of underwear and a hammer, with the caption “Got my Paul Pelosi Halloween costume ready.”

    Also from Trump Jr.:

    The internet remains undefeated… Also if you switch out the hammer for a red feather boa you could be Hunter Biden in an instant

    Also, a reminder that former President Trump also mused at a rally that the “Second Amendment people” could do something about Hillary Clinton choosing judges if she is elected president. Then then just a few weeks later he suggested her secret service detail should be removed “just to see what happens”.

    Just a reminder that Trump told his Chief of Staff that Mike Pence deserved to be hanged.

    A reminder that Trump called for Liz Chaney to face a military tribunal just the other day.

    A reminder that Trump called for his former Joint Chiefs Chairman Mark Milley to be executed.

    A reminder that Trump reposted a disturbing baseball bat photo next to Alvin Bragg, and threatened “death and destruction” if he (Trump) was charged.

    A reminder that Trump reposted an image of Joe Biden hogtied on the bed of a pick-up truck.

    A reminder that Trump promised to pay the legal bills if his supporters beat up protesters. He suggested they remove protesters “on a stretcher”. And told them to “knock the crap out of him” regarding another protester. In a speech in 2017 he also told police officers not to be “too nice” when putting suspects into police vehicles, suggesting they should not protect suspects’ heads when placing them in the cars.

    A reminder that Trump praised Congressman Greg Gianforte for body-slamming a reporter.

    A reminder that during the George Floyd protests, Trump mused that “when the looting starts, the shooting starts.”

    And finally it should be noted that the shooter yesterday was a registered Republican and a member of a conservative second-amendment group. Reporters also spoke to his classmates who recalled the shooter as a very conservative guy who would take the conservative side whenever any political issue came up. Quote from the classmate:

    “He definitely was a conservative. It makes me wonder why he would carry out an assassination attempt on the conservative candidate…. Tom, no matter what, always stood his ground on the conservative side.”

    I heard he supposedly donated $15 to Act Blue (a Democratic organization), but apparently it was a donation made by a 69 year old guy with the same name.

    Apparently the gunman had an obsession with Epstein and was looking for some kind of vengeance per one of his recent social media posts. Given Trump’s ties to Epstein, which have come into focus recently (more evidence and accusations about Trump), that’s the only explanation that makes sense to me.

    When you understand "the deep state" simply refers to the rule of law, it makes much more sense.

    in reply to: 25th Amendment for Biden…Yes or No? #8601
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    Yes please. And take him off the ballot while they’re at it.

    When you understand "the deep state" simply refers to the rule of law, it makes much more sense.

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