[rjnwmill]

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[rjnwmill]

These protests at the capital are remarkable…as is the reaction of the media and the politicians.

A fellow from Congress referred to the goings on as “despicable”. Perhaps so.

But this is the direct result of the politics these “pros” have been practicing for 20+ years. You reap what you sow.

Wheeler blamed Trump for attacks on the US courthouse in Portland? Waters called for confrontation directed at Trump admin officials? Harris raises money to bail out looters & arsonists in Wisconsin? Nadler claims ANTIFA doesn’t exist? Democrats campaign against Bush 41 with an ad featuring the murder of a black man? All the while the “pros” lie and scheme. Russia, Russia, Russia? “I never discussed business with my son”?  Encouraging “protests” like today’s both actively and passively?

And the blame is always placed on the partisans responding to the the “pro’s” rhetoric. They indeed share blame…with the “pros”. Leaders, my butt. The ability to deliver a speech that is exclusively self serving, a willingness to refuse uncomfortable questions & deflect responsibility with a constant refrain, “Come on Man” is not a useful or complete leadership model.  It is the model of incompetence…as these “pros” now bleat in unison, “We’re all Americans!”  No more speech making “pros”…seppuku.

Ps:    Biden’s statement today is example one.  Does the old fool think it was made more effective by holding this message until now…instead of at his convention when midwest cities were aflame?  Damn, were in a leadership vacuum unlike any I’ve seen during my lifetime.

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[rjnwmill]

CC, yes indeed. You’ve hit the proverbial nail with your post. Malfeasance is the common thread on both sides of the aisle. Screw the country, screw the constituents, anything is fair in the pursuit of personal power.

And I’ll say, I felt Trump was peddling bs four years ago when he claimed his campaign was spied on and Trump Tower was bugged. Whoops.

With that misadventure in the rear view mirror partially, I won’t dismiss his claims out of hand now. The Russia hoax was a massive fraud. FBI, congressional leaders, executive branch leakers & investigative and social media? We’re to assume they operated independently and coherently…across multiple branches of government, with integrated media support?  There was no planning and coordination between the parties?

It took two plus years to recognize that Trump was right, that the never Trump narrative was political bs all along. It took years by a team from the DoJ Inspector General to start peeling the onion as I recall. A US Attorney is still at work on the documentation of the record.

The obvious question now is why do people want to dismiss the Trump election allegations in seven weeks?  What is the rush?  Am I the only one who still believes in the old adage, “Fool me once shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me.”  We are not prepared to acknowledge the obvious…Washington is broken and political leadership is morally bankrupt.

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[rjnwmill]

Your own video. You know, the one you initially linked. The one you expected your readers to view?

I’m not presumptuous enough to suggest you’d view a video I linked. It’s not unlike suggesting others are “off topic” with direct responses to your positions.  Dissembling on a message board compromises the exchange of ideas.

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[rjnwmill]

Do you explore your links.  Please listen to the video at 1:30 & 3:00

As to your comments on Biden’s position…listen to his running mate on the significance of things said in debates.  Does this trigger your memory?

Sounds a little like Alan Iverson?

You’re a smart guy.  Have you ever heard the expression attributed to Andrew Carnegie, “As I grow older, I pay less attention to what men say. I just watch what they do.”  Perhaps not.  You are focused on what Biden says, not where he’s taking the DoJ?  That seems suspect to me after the goings on this last year in our cities and during this election cycle.  If in doubt, ask the statues!

It wasn’t the police that attacked the statue of Hans Christian Heg

As our cities descend into the seventh circle of hell, you think Joe is focused on the right things?  I don’t.

• This reply was modified 5 years, 3 months ago by rjnwmill.

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That’s one characterization of the results from an inspection of a single county…but not Fulton County?

As you know, the AJC has taken sides in the battle of narratives.

As you point out there are 3 weeks until Biden’s campaign against the American middle class commences. So allow me to wander a bit. We’ll see if you’re  pleased with the results of his policy formulations. How does this strike you?  Is this a priority for you as private property rights are eviscerated?  (See Dawg’s post about the Seattle motel owner)

My personal guess is that Biden’s policy priorities/provisions might be adjusted if these property crimes were directed at property owned by Zuckerberg or Dorsey or Bezos or Pelosi or Newsom or Inslee?  What do you think?

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[rjnwmill]

Are they entitled to someone’s car if public transportation schedules are inconvenient?

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I’m not much of a fan of deficit spending. But I fear you guys are buying into Republican bs.

These “deficit hawks” are oh so concerned about transfer payments going to high earners who don’t need the money.  Well…the top 5% of household income begins at roughly $166,000. So 95% of the transfer payments go to those earning less. (The 90% threshold is $100,000)

So this program may “miss” on 5% of the total cost?  Who can name another government program that has 5% or less waste?  I can’t.

Orange distinguished himself by his focus and his effectiveness in increasing the share of national income that was available to the broad American middle class. Household incomes increased dramatically. Unemployment reached all time lows. Safety net participation was dramatically reduced.

Why shouldn’t he remain mission focused to his last day?  Keep the economy open for all segments of the economic ladder. I’m pleased he can continue this important work while effectively targeting 90%~95% of the spend.

Now Biden can declare war on those folks with his misguided foreign/trade policy, his misguided immigration policy & his misguided energy policy.

Ps:   Orange suggests good policy is good politics.

• This reply was modified 5 years, 3 months ago by rjnwmill.

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The public policy hydra has now been focused on the destruction of the wage earning middle class. China policy as you’ve highlighted.  Also proposed immigration policy that will put pressure on wages while making social safety net programs less affordable and energy policy.  The “green” programs will reduce employment in the high wage fossil fuel sector as middle income wage earners and the manufacturing sector generally  are required to underwrite the cost of less economic energy sources.

And leadership is focused on gender studies in Pakistan?

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“But this is a thread about Trump doing controversial things as a lame duck President…but the response — at least the part about Hunter Biden — had nothing to do with the topic at hand. It’s a huge stretch even to call it a what-aboutism. It’s just completely off topic and an obvious attempt to deflect, change topics, etc.”

Critical reading skills are lacking here. Try harder.

It was you who stated, “Or siding with Putin again in “Helsinki part II” where he contradicted Pompeo and the rest of our intelligence community regarding who was at fault for the worst security breach ever?”  Remember?

You vouched for the intel “pros” as an example of Trumps “controversial behavior”?  You suggest that their inherent credibility can not be questioned by one of their customers when reviewing/using their work product.

Your assertion is foolish on its face. The very same political actors that you defend and suggest are “off topic” dissembled and deceived re the NY Post reporting. For purely political reasons!  Further, they did so with knowledge of their own dishonesty. Recall the Biden attorney wrote asking for the return of the laptop after it had been subpoenaed. When they released their statement in October, they knew of the ongoing FBI investigation, or should have known…or you’d have a problem using the adjective “intel” in characterizing their particular domain expertise.

The only reason you need to label this vignette as “off topic” is that it clearly undermines your position; a consumer of the intel work product is being rash if they question? Hunter Biden is only germane here as an example of your questionable assertion and it’s on topic…if you’re prepared to permit others to question the quality of your thoughts

And while we’re at it, let’s search for common ground. Do you agree using a FISA warrant, obtained with knowingly false assertions and obfuscation to surveil Stacy Abrams campaign activities might be an example of behavior you’d classify as “controversial”?

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[rjnwmill]

Thank Dawg. This article was linked in your first article.

Microsoft is engaged and seemingly effective in their response.

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[rjnwmill]

Remember how dismissive you were when Trump said his campaign had been spied on?  His Trump Tower phones were bugged?  Remember how the Mueller team spent years and millions without looking into the malfeasance of the FBI?  No, undoing political bs ain’t controversial to me.

I don’t know enough to compare the Blackwater guys to the Clinton pardons of the PR terrorists.

“Contradicting Pompeo & the rest of our intelligence community”?  How egregious!  So you’re suggesting that the 50 guys who signed a letter assuring us that the NY Post was an active part of the Putin disinformation infrastructure with their Hunter Biden reporting remain credible?

And pardon me, but your refrain about the integrity of our elections sounds a bit like your thoughts re Russia, Russia, Russia and the Mueller crap. The legal theatre post the 2000 election wasn’t controversial, it was politics. The decision to engage with state and federal courts in 2020 election cycle isn’t controversial, it’s our system. So what?

What might he do that I would think could be construed as controversial…how about using a FISA warrant to eves drop on Stacey Abrams and her ongoing efforts in the GA runoff contests?  A FISA warrant obtained by misrepresentation?  I think that might qualify.

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[rjnwmill]

He certainly hasn’t been too controversial…but there’s still time.

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Thanks Dawg, gpn.

Merry Christmas to you and yours. Best wishes for the New Year.

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Neo, it seems to me the necessary skill set you describe is not unknown…albeit in limited supply. There are students from technical/quantitative backgrounds who subsequently enroll in law school. They surely could evaluate the arguments that have been advanced re election abnormalities.

And it’s not as if the engagement of an of counsel with specific expertise is unheard of. Look no further than the court room of  the esteemed jurist, Emmet Sullivan.

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